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Marty McFlew 03-15-2016 05:12 PM

Are prices too high?
 
I live in an area where there are about 5 chevy stores in a 20 mile radius. I looked at some Camaros almost 2 months ago and some of these same vehicles are sitting on the lot with reduced prices. I would have though they would have been sold a week after hitting the lot. I know the pricing is a bit high over the Mustang and 5th gen. Is it sticker shock after all that's keeping these cars from moving. When drove the first one there was still snow on the ground so I thought that's why they ere not moving, but the snow has been gone for almost 2 months now and some of the same cars are still there. :pout:

doc212121 03-15-2016 05:42 PM

Nope, move on

Techn9cian805 03-15-2016 05:52 PM

to the casual and uninformed buyer, yes, the prices will seem high. but there is a reason why they are substantially higher: because you are getting a lot more standard features than last gen had.

2016SS 03-15-2016 06:04 PM

I would think for the average joe there high in Canada for the SS models but there is the 4 and 6 cylinder options. In my area there is 5 2016 Camaros and one just sold last week.
With taxes my SS pushed 60000 no matter how you put it the average guy who has a mortgage kids ect will not be able to swing the SS that easy.

I have no kids I Put 25% down on my home when I bought it so I'm in good standing.

MiamiBlueCamaro 03-15-2016 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by doc212121 (Post 8969085)
Nope, move on

+1

BlueSteel07 03-15-2016 06:29 PM

Whether the price is too high or not is purely subjective. I think the higher prices will keep the V8s from selling well. I also think the v6 is priced a little high. You could probably get a base mustang gt for a similar price as a v6 camaro. I'd pick the v8 everytime even if it is a mustang. Anyways, I think the higher prices, relative to the mustang, will keep the camaro from selling as well as the mustang, it's direct competitor.

HogsFan75 03-15-2016 06:39 PM

Yes they are too high. The SS models anyway. I priced out a loaded 2SS 6th gen on Chevy.com. Brembo (front only ;) brakes), ground effects, dual mode etc etc and the MSRP was over $50,000 before dealer markup.

I checked my local Chevy dealer and they have some bare bones SS 6th gens on the lot and the cheapest is around $46,000.
I don't care how much "better" the car is than the previous gen, Chevy has made it too expensive for a significant portion of Americans. Also there seem to be a lot of little issues with this being the first year of the 6th gen and all.

I ended up buying a 2015 1LE from my dealer last month instead of the 6th gen. It had 2SS, RS, Dual Mode etc and paid $39,000 out the door. I can't even imagine what the 2017 1LE is going to cost. My bet is 55-60 grand. Wait and see.

Memphis43 03-15-2016 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HogsFan75 (Post 8969244)
Yes they are too high. The SS models anyway. I priced out a loaded 2SS 6th gen on Chevy.com. Brembo (front only ;) brakes), ground effects, dual mode etc etc and the MSRP was over $50,000 before dealer markup.

I checked my local Chevy dealer and they have some bare bones SS 6th gens on the lot and the cheapest is around $46,000.
I don't care how much "better" the car is than the previous gen, Chevy has made it too expensive for a significant portion of Americans. Also there seem to be a lot of little issues with this being the first year of the 6th gen and all.

I ended up buying a 2015 1LE from my dealer last month instead of the 6th gen. It had 2SS, RS, Dual Mode etc and paid $39,000 out the door. I can't even imagine what the 2017 1LE is going to cost. My bet is 55-60 grand. Wait and see.


No. You can only get it in the 1SS. Which is probably a good thing with everyone complaining about price.




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pete1077 03-15-2016 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Techn9cian805 (Post 8969113)
to the casual and uninformed buyer, yes, the prices will seem high. but there is a reason why they are substantially higher: because you are getting a lot more standard features than last gen had.

I agree. To most of us on this site, we don't have a problem with the prices since we know how much car the Camaro actually offers, but for the casual buyer who wants a rwd muscle car and isn't brand loyal, I can see them buying the competition to save money. The monthly sales figures don't lie.

HogsFan75 03-15-2016 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Memphis43 (Post 8969258)
No. You can only get it in the 1SS. Which is probably a good thing with everyone complaining about price.
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True. I forgot that they took some options from the 17 1le. That said, lets see what they do. I bet it's still high as heck.

DenverTaco07 03-15-2016 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HogsFan75 (Post 8969244)
Yes they are too high. The SS models anyway. I priced out a loaded 2SS 6th gen on Chevy.com. Brembo (front only ;) brakes), ground effects, dual mode etc etc and the MSRP was over $50,000 before dealer markup.

I checked my local Chevy dealer and they have some bare bones SS 6th gens on the lot and the cheapest is around $46,000.
I don't care how much "better" the car is than the previous gen, Chevy has made it too expensive for a significant portion of Americans. Also there seem to be a lot of little issues with this being the first year of the 6th gen and all.

I ended up buying a 2015 1LE from my dealer last month instead of the 6th gen. It had 2SS, RS, Dual Mode etc and paid $39,000 out the door. I can't even imagine what the 2017 1LE is going to cost. My bet is 55-60 grand. Wait and see.

you are comparing an outgoing model heavily dicounted to a brand new model and saying ... too high? :bonk:

Wiskey 03-15-2016 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pete1077 (Post 8969266)
I agree. To most of us on this site, we don't have a problem with the prices since we know how much car the Camaro actually offers, but for the casual buyer who wants a rwd muscle car and isn't brand loyal, I can see them buying the competition to save money. The monthly sales figures don't lie.

I don't know. I'm not brand loyal, in fact I've always had Toyota's and Hondas and would have preferred one of those if they had anything close to competing,.. but I drove the 1LT V6 M6 and fell in love!

The Mustang just didn't compare in the way it felt and the way it drove for me, and nor did anything else,.. I was happy to spend $28K for it and think the car is well worth that price.

Whiskey

vtirocz 03-15-2016 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HogsFan75 (Post 8969244)
Yes they are too high. The SS models anyway. I priced out a loaded 2SS 6th gen on Chevy.com. Brembo (front only ;) brakes), ground effects, dual mode etc etc and the MSRP was over $50,000 before dealer markup.

I checked my local Chevy dealer and they have some bare bones SS 6th gens on the lot and the cheapest is around $46,000.
I don't care how much "better" the car is than the previous gen, Chevy has made it too expensive for a significant portion of Americans. Also there seem to be a lot of little issues with this being the first year of the 6th gen and all.

I ended up buying a 2015 1LE from my dealer last month instead of the 6th gen. It had 2SS, RS, Dual Mode etc and paid $39,000 out the door. I can't even imagine what the 2017 1LE is going to cost. My bet is 55-60 grand. Wait and see.

You are exaggerating a bit on prices. The '17 1LE will NOT be an $18-23k OPTION (on top of the 1SS - only way it's offered). Also, if your dealers has $46k cars on the lot, they are far from bare bones. Your comparing prices of 6th gen camaros with options not even offered on the 5th gen to make a point on the price.

With that said, I was hoping the base 1SS would come in closer to $35k than $37k, but the step up from the 5th gen is huge in terms of performance & interior.

Congrats on the 1LE purchase.. that's my favorite 5th gen.

Disarmer 03-15-2016 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HogsFan75 (Post 8969244)
Yes they are too high. The SS models anyway. I priced out a loaded 2SS 6th gen on Chevy.com. Brembo (front only ;) brakes), ground effects, dual mode etc etc and the MSRP was over $50,000 before dealer markup.

I checked my local Chevy dealer and they have some bare bones SS 6th gens on the lot and the cheapest is around $46,000.
I don't care how much "better" the car is than the previous gen, Chevy has made it too expensive for a significant portion of Americans. Also there seem to be a lot of little issues with this being the first year of the 6th gen and all.

I ended up buying a 2015 1LE from my dealer last month instead of the 6th gen. It had 2SS, RS, Dual Mode etc and paid $39,000 out the door. I can't even imagine what the 2017 1LE is going to cost. My bet is 55-60 grand. Wait and see.

Any SS that's at $46k is most definitely NOT barebones. That's 9k over MSRP. A "barebones" SS 6th gen is $37k if you pay full price (which you shouldn't). The 2017 1LE will cost no more than $45k at the most. Not sure where you're getting your numbers from, but they're bad.


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