Constraints
 

Here are this weeks constraints for those that may be interested. Just keep in mind these constraints DO NOT affect any orders past 2000 status.

https://i.ibb.co/3r5b1vq/Constraints.png

Wow! Thank you for this!

Thank you for the update. Looks to be the same as last week, unless I missed something.

also, am I reading this right that the 1SE is the ZL1?

The V6 continues to be a no go. Meh.

Thanks for posting this. Can you please keep updating. Very interesting stuff!

It certainly is a reality check and it is nice to see this. It drives much of what is going on right now. If anything you spec'd out or want is on that list then you are assured of the hold up & the reason for it. Its frustrating, yes, but its also nice to have actual data versus all the misinformation flying around. The worst part is that a few weeks ago the V6 restriction(and others) had a target end date of Nov. 14th which is at least something to go on. Now, the end dates are all TBD. I dont see that being a positive thing for any of us with cars ordered that are on that list. :(

Great info!! Thank you sooo much Dylan! Please keep them coming!!! I am definitely affected by this with a 2SS on order.

All the top trims are on constraint: 3LT, 2SS and 1SE. Must be one of the features only included in those groups like blind spot monitoring or heated steering wheel or something.

Does that mean a Turbo 4 LS or 1LT would get built reasonably soon?

Your first problem was the dealer not having an allocation to even place the order for you. If you have been sitting at 1100 since early August this constraint is really going to delay things. Others have ordered cars when you did and it’s already in their driveway.

There are 1LT’s already on the lots. You might as well pull the trigger on a car that’s already out there.

Here is one… Just reset the search criteria for your area.


https://www.gmfamilyfirst.com/byo-vc...erSearchBy=bac

I don’t know about “soon” but at least before anybody trying to order those trims right now. From what I understand any 2SS etc already past 2000 would probably still be built without delay.

I’m curious what the exact item on constraint is and how long it is anticipated to last. Was planning on starting my search for a dealer to take supplier discount on a 2SS 1LE in the next few weeks. Like many on here, I wanted to take delivery in the spring.

1SE
 

Sorry guys, but what is a 1SE ??? Is it a 1SS 1LE ??

ya the 1SE is what????

It's the ZL1 (as if model designations weren't confusing enough...)

1SE = ZL1

So, to say this in another way: right now, the only Camaros being built are the 1SS, the LT1, 1LS, and any 1LT or 2LT with a 4cyl turbo.

Those are the only vehicles getting allocated (order formally accepted) right now. Constraints do not effect vehicles at 2000 status or higher as the required parts/assemblies are already in progress or at least scheduled throughout GM's just-in-time (JIT) manufacturing processes.

I am curious to know how long this will affect ZL1 production for. It is tough times out there for the auto industry.

Yep - that makes sense. I wonder if any people waiting on the V6, if that constraint stays longer, will switch to a T4 and change their order?

Its brutal. Seems worse for some companies though than others. Of course, it sucks for us that the Camaro is one of the hardest hit models. :facepalm:

Yep. We're in stormy seas for a while:

https://jalopnik.com/the-car-shortag...rse-1847892481

Ya I'm well aware and so are they that I know they are not being honest with me. I ordered it at the largest dealer west of the Mississippi hoping it would help but I think they gave allocations to others as I am not local to them. I'm currently looking for another dealer who could get an allocation once the constraints are lifted.

Itd be nice to get details on the cause of the various constraints, wouldn’t it? That would give people a better idea or at least some indication of possible timeframes on this stuff. Like for the V6 engine that some of us were hoping to order: is it just a part or two? Is it the shipping or dock holdups? Is it a chip? Is it the boogeyman? :smiling1: The uncertainty and "TBD" status is so unsatisfying.

Anyone have an updates or know if any constraints changed for this week?

The constraints change every Thursday. Last Thursday was the same except 20 ZL1 Coupes were able to be ordered across the country.

So to be clear: This Thursday, the 4th there will be a "Constraint" update?

I wonder if the constraint on the V6 is because they're all being used in the more profitable trucks and SUV's.

Dying to know. That information would mean a lot to those that attempted to order a V6 powered car. If that’s the case then Guess what? You can forget the V6 in a Camaro for the foreseeable future. What engines they do have are going into the pickemup trucks and soccer mom mobiles. :smiling1:.

My gut tells me this is true though. So, you either order a turbo 4 or save up more cash for a V8…. If you even want A V8.

As far as I see, the LGX only goes into the Blazer, other SUVs and trucks have a different V6 engine option. I'm sure many of their parts are shared, though.

LGX also goes in Acadia, XT5 and XT6

Ahhh - The Acadia is fairly popular. This all could have something to do with the total inability to order a V6 Camaro. Rats. Getting harder to resist the I4 Turbo. Most owners really like them and an axle back exhaust takes care of most of the alleged(very mixed reviews on how bad the stock exhaust sounds) sound issues. Hmmm. My "use case" is sport driving, twisty road weekend trips, some auto-crossing and an occasional track day. Exactly what this I4 engine & chassis combo are made for.

Thank you :nod:. I missed the Acadia because of the stock engine photo that doesn't look like my previous LGX at all :noidea:... This does explain the constraint to some extent.

You are exactly right! If GM would just put the information out there then we could sit back and say ok, not til March and I'd be good with that. It's the not knowing that is maddening!!

Please keep this info coming Dylan! It really helps those of us that are in limbo...

That's my take...

any Rapid Blue cars being built yet? Sorry, I looked and didn't see any mention of that.

Yes and some already delivered. I've seen a few posts with pics.

Saw these on YouTube

https://youtu.be/ZBlcCIACfNM

https://youtu.be/1uUhub9FQUc

Still not sold on the color but I haven’t seen it in person

LT1 Chip Shortage?
 

So do we think LT1's are having some sort of chip shortage? I'm seeing SS's and ZL1's that were built days after LT1's being picked and paired to be put on trucks for delivery. Yet, the dealer I have my order through also has 4 LT1's built days before the others that are on "hold" at the plant...

My Rapid ZLE should be delivered this week.