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Badmojo 11-23-2020 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TrackClub (Post 10907125)
Thanks! If you dont mind me asking: how much are these?


$343

TrackClub 11-23-2020 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Badmojo (Post 10907358)
$343

Thanks Scott! Wasnt sure how much it all was after discount...

GunMetalGrey 11-24-2020 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TrackClub (Post 10906052)
Everybody wants our money. All the time. And especially if they sense we may not clearly understand causes and effects :)

What exactly are you trying to fix handling wise? You knocked off a tremendous 3 seconds of your laptime with stickier tires and improved driving alone. Given your track config, i would not do anything that - even remotely:
1) reduces responsiveness of the car
2) increases tire wear

Remember, fix has to be based on what a driver feels, not what some guy tells you, that sells parts. I suspect if he sold shocks he would insist you swap those as well, to match the springs. Etc, etc. If you start listening to others vs yourself, the list will be infinite and your car at an ever changing state of flux. And eventually you may start taking parts out, because it doesnt feel right anymore.

If you want more camber, just get camber plates! Those and rear toe lock out make sense. However, if ya run 2.5 and 2.0, adjust up based on YOUR tire wear and do it in small increments (on the front, obviously) lest you can ruin a pair of F tires in a day (ive seen it done first hand). More is not always better. It all depends on a venue, driving style, tire, etc. So, thats another thing YOU must pay attention to as a driver and adjust accordingly. Not "some guy" that has never driven your car and/or your track.

Bottom line: it is your wallet. But even if ya have plenty of spare cash burning a hole in it, spend it wisely and spend it on items that will give ya best return on investment.
My cents anyway. Cheers!

I figure because of how corner heavy my track is that having more than -2.5 front camber would be beneficial.

I’m going to get a Pyro-metre to see what the temperature is across the face of my tire. That should tell
Me something about my alignment and if I could use more camber

GunMetalGrey 11-24-2020 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TrackClub (Post 10906060)
GMG, i had mentioned this before: if i were you and since laptimes are your obvious focus, i would seriously consider ZLE DSSV suspension (on sale now, see link).

This would lower your car, give you many benefits of coilovers design and Trans Am tested racing solution from one of the top shelf pro racing houses on the planet. Zero guessing here.

Sure, your DD ride quality would suffer, but then again id imagine tons of ZLEs never see a race track and folks do street those cars successfully.

Not only this, but this would position you perfectly for another future go faster mod: aero (which requires much stiffer springs and shocks to go with them).

For the price of all the parts that you are being recommended to purchase (more or less), you can do a wholesale, complete and proven suspension upgrade designed for the car. Plus position for the future. Food for thought.

https://www.gmperformancemotor.com/parts/84352121.html

Yes that’s a good point, I am considering it but by far my biggest fear is the ride quality.

Having said that I pretty much only drive my car on the highway now and I imagine I wouldn’t feel much on those smooth flat surfaces.

I will definitely seriously consider this, I really like the idea of taking the guesswork out of it

FYI SPL says their parts are primarily designed for the ZL11LE, so theoretically there parts should be upgrades for this car as well

TrackClub 11-24-2020 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GunMetalGrey (Post 10907553)
I figure because of how corner heavy my track is that having more than -2.5 front camber would be beneficial.

Iím going to get a Pyro-metre to see what the temperature is across the face of my tire. That should tell
Me something about my alignment and if I could use more camber

That's always helpful, but frankly uneven tire wear is easy to spot without any tools per se. Id say GM camber specs are rather conservative. For example, for SS 1LE they are 2.0 and 1.5 and most folks (myself included), dial in more, especially in the front. I suspect your car would do better with higher front camber regardless of the venue, say 2.7-2.9 (max).
However, keep in mind, both SS 1LE and ZL1 are recommended the same camber, while ZL1 1LE is recommended more. I suspect mainly because the suspension is very different. So, not sure about the virtue of adopting a ZL1 1LE specs on a ZL1 with MRC.
A buddy with a ZL1 on G3Rs completely destroyed both fronts with 3.5 camber in about 2 or 3 *sessions* (less than a day). More corners = more tire wear, so be careful about going too far as it could be a costly experiment.

Not sure how a manufacturer can develop parts for a coilover car, which has completely different components and sits almost half an inch lower, as in ZLE and yet suggest the same parts for other models. But, be it as it may. While rear toe link kit seems a defo improvement over stock to keep the settings in check, the rest is a bit vague at best as to value of money spent.
Note that DSSV suspension offers completely different level of adjustability over MRC (as any coilover kit would). If ya decide to head this way, ping Ricky Bobby who put it on his car and ask for details about his build.
No reason to be a Guinea pig if others have already done the transition and can offer first hand info.

Anyhow, as a first step i would dial in more F camber to say 2.8 and maybe reduce the rear to 1.8. And then monitor tire wear on each rim after each run. Remember, the purpose of proper camber is to give YOU the biggest contact patch possible and to prevent uneven tire wear in the process. Lastly, the more camber in the rear the smaller the contact patch under acceleration. Cheers!

kropscamaro16 04-26-2021 11:42 AM

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love my spl toe rods with lockout going to be adding the rest of the kit to my car next week



here is a shot of the rear with my afe power swaybars yyz springs and yyz shocks

weemus 04-26-2021 02:35 PM

�� I just purchased the same thing. I was tired of constant alignments $$$.

kropscamaro16 04-28-2021 01:05 PM

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its like christmas in april ! not all mine btw half of these are for my supra buddy going to get them all installed next week and then time for a real alignment!



gonna shoot for -3 front and -2 rear

Badmojo 04-28-2021 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kropscamaro16 (Post 11001067)
its like christmas in april ! not all mine btw half of these are for my supra buddy going to get them all installed next week and then time for a real alignment!



gonna shoot for -3 front and -2 rear



Awesome, no need to double post this stuff. I would recommend keeping the posting in this forum, since most in the ZL1 forum donít track and the track junkies watch both! [emoji16]


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kropscamaro16 04-28-2021 01:45 PM

My bad i had two older posts was just bumping em up and haha same with the 1le guys i dont get it... im just a peasant 1ss trying to keep up with the 1le and zl1 guys

kropscamaro16 05-05-2021 02:14 PM

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getting them all on today at studio rsr time for fancy alignment saturday then track day sunday at buttonwillow with ongrid super gt cup!

GunMetalGrey 05-06-2021 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kropscamaro16 (Post 11001097)
My bad i had two older posts was just bumping em up and haha same with the 1le guys i dont get it... im just a peasant 1ss trying to keep up with the 1le and zl1 guys

That's awesome man! I'm officially jealous!

Question, what are you going to do for front brake duct cooling since the new SPL arms/rods don't allow for the air deflectors to attach the same way the stock ones did?

kropscamaro16 05-06-2021 01:43 PM

haha oh shit didnt realize/think of that hmm i guess well figure it out! going to buttonwillow to test it all out sunday

GunMetalGrey 05-06-2021 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kropscamaro16 (Post 11005856)
haha oh shit didnt realize/think of that hmm i guess well figure it out! going to buttonwillow to test it all out sunday

Yeah probably isn't that difficult to figure out. Let me know what you come up with! And good luck at the track! :)

kropscamaro16 05-06-2021 04:08 PM

i probably wont have time still gotta get on my pads but ill figure something out maybe and thanks!

Dabjbr 05-06-2021 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kropscamaro16 (Post 11005856)
haha oh shit didnt realize/think of that hmm i guess well figure it out! going to buttonwillow to test it all out sunday

Exactly what long zip ties are for!

kropscamaro16 05-07-2021 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dabjbr (Post 11006093)
Exactly what long zip ties are for!


haha i talked to turner at spl parts and he is going to be working on a kit maybe

carguy55 05-07-2021 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GunMetalGrey (Post 11005852)
Question, what are you going to do for front brake duct cooling since the new SPL arms/rods don't allow for the air deflectors to attach the same way the stock ones did?

I talked to the SPL Camaro parts designer about this and he working on a solution.

kropscamaro16 05-08-2021 08:32 AM

Mine are still on my car lol picked car up last night well see what they did

weemus 05-08-2021 03:16 PM

On the front arms check the Subaru BRZ forums, they use Porsche brake ducts that zip onto round arms. Fits on multiple diameters. May work for this as well.

kropscamaro16 05-08-2021 03:44 PM

Nope shop didnt install them lol fun shit


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