Camaros in the snow
 

Show us your car in the snow if you have it out. I drove mine on the factory Goodyear all-seasons and it did OK except for the really slick packed snow/ice. The snow/ice mode dials back throttle response and seems to help with traction control. My driveway has a steep grade, and when it was snow covered I let the traction control just crawl up the hill and it made it up. I had it floored in 1st gear and it just crawled up the hill at about 1100 rpm. I was worried it would slide backwards down the hill!

I also noticed the engine cranks more when it is really cold before it fires. I am assuming it is priming the HPFP or maybe extra fuel in the cylinders to warm up faster.

We just had a pretty big snow storm here in Michigan, and my 18 1LT V6 with 18" factory all seasons did fairly decent IMO. Driveway was unplowed and drifted over a bit, and I got stuck with TC on. Turned it off and gave it some juice and spun hard to make it, but it worked lol. The TC and snow/ice mode have their place, but sometimes they make things worse in the snow

Here's my dad's '11 in the foreground, and my '18 this morning

Last Saturday in the Great Smokey Mountains.

:lol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSAf1uHy0rE

My daily with winters.... Since it came with run flats, lol.

She spends most of her time in track mode, with nannies off, unless I need cruise control... https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...70dbbd8ece.jpg

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Winter

Gorgeous! :wub:

Taken last March . . .

w Pilot Sports..

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Hasn't snowed since, although today is cold AF. Blizak LM-32 on there now.

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Daily driver, every day.

and all my pics are upside down..

Friggin' Upside down.

Come on, Chris !!!

Mine looks the same, except hyper blue, and in the ban!!!

Camaros in Australia.. though it was summer there now ?

I drive my 2SS Vert in the winter but dont usually travel far. No pics yet but Il get some

No pics because mine has never been driven or covered in snow!

I would recommend, if you have, or can find wheels narrow enough... Run 225 or 235s... The 245s are a tad too wide for the weight of the car, lol.

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Wider tires is not the end of the world. You'll ride on the top of the snow/ice anyway.

No, but skinnies do give you better traction on ice, lol.

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It really depends on application.

Narrower is better for soft snow, wide is actually better when it gets packed down as you have more sipes/edges. They are also better on ice for the same reason.

I also get performance snows as we don't get much actual snow, so if 95% of the time you'll be on cold dry pavement then narrow snows are way too much of a compromise.

We'll see - waiting on snow to show up :) 285's Blizzak LM-32's

Blowers love cold air! lol

More ground pressure is more grip on ice. That's why dually's suck balls, lol. Less ground pressure. My dually definitely had far less grip than my Camaro does, with equivalent tires.

I definitely agree on the area dependant thing, though... I get a lot of hard packed snow and ice, as well as deep snow, lol. If I was in a more temperate area, I'd have Michelin AS3+ on my car for the winter.

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This would make sense if you were driving through a foot of two of snow with a VW van or something.

The car will become a snowplow long before you reach snow deep enough for this to make a difference. These cars are way under-tired with something like 225s.

We had a storm in November with a few inches of snow which became packed down. I have the Conti Extreme Contact DWS-06. Great tires. In the morning I put two 50lb bags of icemelt in the trunk. The snow was bad at night. I was doing better in S/I mode than some of the AWD and FWD cars on the road. There were a few slight inclines that I got stopped on and wasn't sure if I was going to make it. I shut off the TC, put it in 2nd (A8) and put my foot to the floor. I got moving and away I went. I was very surprised at how well it did.

Not enough snow to call it snow ... But we've been out all season.

You know seats are height adjustable :) ?

I'll do better next time!

Unless you're tracking it, you'll be fine, lol.
The size recommendation is only if you're running dedicated winter tires...

Skinnies have more grip on ice, too, not just for cutting through the snow. Ground pressure is more effective for ice grip than a couple more tread blocks.

Dry pavement is where the wider tires provide more grip.

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More studs in a concentrated area would have more grip on ice, that's how studs work, but wider is better for traction on smooth (ice) surfaces. Not sure how you think the opposite is true. Ice isn't some mystery substance, the right winter tires will grip better and treat it more like a dry road surface (although it won't ever quite get there). Wider will still give you better traction. What you are talking about has only two valid points IME, compressing a bunch of snow with a hard surface beneath, for traction, and concentrating studs, which has some validity, but with the tire compound also providing grip you still benefit with wider tires.

was that to me? Seats are back and low just as I like them :)

This is my Camaro in the snow... Under the car cover. Just finished shoveling around it... It is trapped in a corner, behind there are some cedar and in front is the garage... What a PITA to move to snow around haha.

I routinely leave mine in a work parking lot for a few days at a time. While I was gone it was freezing rain that changed over to snow this time. The parking lot has a gentle, not all that noticeable slope to it. To back out of the spot I was in though went against the slope. The car wouldn’t do it. Luckily, nobody was parked nose to nose with me. Going forward I got out with no problem. It was after midnight and 9 degrees. I didn’t need problems. From now on, I will make a point during the winter of parking only in spots where I do not end up forced to either back up or pull out going against the slope....may the slope be with me.

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Then adding weight wouldn't increase traction at all.... Which it does... Because of added ground pressure.

Going from a 525 wide tire to a 245 wide tire gave me more traction on pure ice, lol.

Same reason some folks with unloaded dually's will run singles in the back... Better traction on ice.

Same reason nobody runs 15.5 or 18 wide tires on their truck in the winter, unless they can't afford winter setups, lol.

Same reason 11" wide semi tires turn better on ice than 385 wide semi tires... All with the same tread pattern, lol.

But I'm also going off my personal experience and everyone I know, so it's probably a skewed view compared to your sources.

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Is that with stock tires?


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Ryan B.

Better traction on ice? Or better traction on snow when you compress it against a hard layer (ice or road beneath).

Have you tried braking on ice with skinny tires and no studs? If not, you are in for some fun. Tried turning across an intersection with lateral forces acting on your car? I'm not doubting you having driven through snow, but driving on ice constantly, I am. To a degree, on snow, you can increase traction by increasing weight and compressing the snow against a hard layer, assuming your tread compound is good for winter. We don't have the kind of weight over the axles in a rear-wheel-drive car to ever approach the starting-traction of something like a box-truck or even an SUV, but that's not where the greatest danger is, it's from sliding left or right and not being able to brake.

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