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PhillyAndSeattle's 2017 MBM SS 1LE - Ultimate DD/Track monster

Youtube channel updates here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6W...EXWIyeGTFY-q1w

Got this thing on 11/29/16 and to my knowledge I got the first one in the PNW

I'll also be uploading videos on occasion about the car on Youtube... I'll add a link to the channel soon :)

Quick reference links...

Pics after OEM GM Dark tail lights with LED reverse bulbs, 5% window tint, 3rd brake light vinyl, and sidemarker tint installed
Black Chevy bowties and deadpool license plate frame
Professional Pics with ZL1 Add-Ons 1LE Wickerbill spoiler

Specs/Options on the car itself when ordered...
-1LE package (obviously)
-Mosaic Black Metallic paint
-All weather mats
-Trunk mat
-Trunk cargo net (waste of money IMHO)

Overall goal of the car...
To be a comfy daily driver, while being track capable and still fun for the occasional highway/quarter-mile run

Currently Installed List...
-Black Front and Rear Chevy Bow ties
-Big worm 6th gen hash marks in matte black with red piping
-Hood wrap delete
-Rear SS badge delete
-Fender badge deletes
-ZL1 AddOns stealth wicker bill with upgraded hardware kit
-1LE badge install on wickerbill
-ZL1 AddOns 3rd brakelight
-5% tint on all windows
-30% tint on windshield
-velcro net for cell phone/storage on trans tunnel
-Black alcantara knee pads
-GM OEM Dark tail lights
-Tinted Sidemarkers front/rear
-ZL1 Add-Ons 1LE wickerbill spoiler
-RotoFab oiled filter intake with sound tube delete
-Kooks 2in headers with catless xpipe
-flex fuel kit
-Ported TB/Intake Mani
-Tune for 92 and E85
-RBF600 Fluid
-PS Z26 street brake pads
-ZL1AddOns front tow hook/camera mount
-ZL1AddOns jack pads
-Mudflaps/rockguards
-C5Z06 replica 18x10.5 rear wheels with 315/35-18 Toyo TQ drag radials
-Custom grinding/massaging of shocks/front suspension to get -3.0 degrees of camber and -1.25 rear.
-3mm spacers up front (with longer wheel studs but they aren't needed)
-APEX PS-7 in 19x10.5 and 19x11
-Nitto NT01 in 305/30-19 and 325/30-19
-Raybestos ST43 track pads

Currently planned/on order/in the garage waiting install...
Nitrous plate... but not a kit... yet

Planned Future Mods
-Ported 5.3L truck heads? (maybe)
-Custom camshaft (with fuel lobe)
-A rear seat delete eventually

Ideally 550-600whp with just heads/cam/e85 tune

http://i.imgur.com/y5dyU8R.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IajT1QI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ruUASzA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6vKymkd.jpg

Congrats ! The car looks great. Sorry the weather was garbage

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Originally Posted by Mojave (Post 9447457)

Congrats ! The car looks great. Sorry the weather was garbage

Thanks! And it's really ironic to me that this will be my 5th winter here and the first time it's snowed in December, let alone been this cold this early... And of course it's when I have a sports car as my only car (I've had C5s and C6s before with a DD of some sort previously, or last winter I just had my truck because of a back injury).

However since my new job pays for bus commute to work, and it takes me the same amount of time to commute on the bus as to drive... it'll sit in the garage for now (with my Yamaha FZ10 - another warm weather toy) and be driven sparingly til it's consistently over 40 degrees. Ordered some visual mods for now, which I'll update the first post with (and overall plans too)

Do you still have that Colorado? I have thought about getting one of those also.

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Originally Posted by Mojave (Post 9447525)

Do you still have that Colorado? I have thought about getting one of those also.

Traded it in - But I will completely admit that if I had the money, I'd have kept it. WONDERFUL truck!

In 2-3 years after I've paid down the Camaro a good bit, I would consider buying the ZR2 they just announced a couple weeks ago - maybe as a 1-2 year old used model. Looks rad

Yeah, I would love the grab a ZR2 diesel some day. I am now busy modding my Camaro too much to divert money to that idea yet, lol

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Originally Posted by Mojave (Post 9447797)

Yeah, I would love the grab a ZR2 diesel some day. I am now busy modding my Camaro too much to divert money to that idea yet, lol

I feel the same haha.

Got the taillights today and the blackout film for the lights.
Tint goes on tomorrow :)
Pics to follow!

50% tint on windshield (for heat and dash protection)
5% all other glass
Phastek tint strips for reflectors on rear bumper, and all side markers - crap camera phone pic at dusk makes it look like the rear 1/4 windows are darker than the doors but both are 5%

(not pictured) Black out 3rd brake light that says "CAMARO" on it.

Got my OEM GM Dark tail lights in the mail, waiting on the black badges. Will install those and remove the fender badges and then appearance mods are done until a 1LE wickerbill comes out.

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...8a&oe=58EF5EAF

OMG those tail lights are so SICK ! I have to do that soon(ish)

Damn, that looks good!!!

Thanks guys!

Black bow ties came in the mail today (along with the microsuede knee pads), but I'm visiting family out of town... so the install will have to wait.

what LED's did you replace the rear tail lights with?

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Originally Posted by aa406079 (Post 9470911)

what LED's did you replace the rear tail lights with?

Got the tails used from a guy who was in an accident (not his fault) and the LEDs were already in them, so sorry but I don't know.

Got the black badges on - Still got some badge work to do tho...

-Got a custom "1LE" badge on the way which I'll be putting in the spot that the stock "SS" badge is in on the rear. So it has the SS badge in front and 1LE out back
-Will be removing the Camaro fender badges as well

Only pick I got at a meet with some friends...
http://i.imgur.com/GUkBymT.jpg

Good idea on the 1LE badge. Looking forward to seeing the completed work!

Black badges on and cleaned up - and a sneaky mod you might spot....

http://i.imgur.com/ep4s6ql.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gyqTDKF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PYalLPn.jpg

Next mods will be the ZL1 Add-ons wickerbill, a set of stainless lines, RBF600 and probably will look into G-Loc pads (although they're crap at returning email), and lowering springs.

After that the focus will shift to wheels/tires and power.

Wickerbill is on... :)

http://i.imgur.com/qgBp0XV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/S15jO76.jpg

More pics to come soon of the whole car

How much were the LED reverse lights

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Originally Posted by Hard Parker (Post 9585016)

How much were the LED reverse lights

Answered elsewhere in this thread...

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Originally Posted by aa406079 (Post 9470911)

what LED's did you replace the rear tail lights with?

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Originally Posted by RideZX6R (Post 9476473)

Got the tails used from a guy who was in an accident (not his fault) and the LEDs were already in them, so sorry but I don't know.

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Originally Posted by RideZX6R (Post 9589326)

These showed up today :)

:love: Pretty pretty please do a suspension stroke measurement work up. I'd love to know if the Eibach's retain any compression travel prior to becoming bumpstop active. I know with the MRC's the bumpstop isn't visible, you'll have to feel for it w/out the spring installed.

Nobody, not even the vendors, have done a stroke analysis yet. This would be very helpful for those of us wanting to actually improve the handling.

Also, the wicker bill spoiler looks awesome! How was the install, easy?

Finally, G-Loc works best on the phone. They're old school that way, like most race shops.

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Originally Posted by Ryephile (Post 9589965)

I'm afraid I have no idea how to do such a thing. :(

Wickerbill install should take 60 mins or less, and 75% of the time is measuring/prep - 25% drilling/install.

Already got the info from G-Loc a while back, just haven't ordered yet.

Car looks great. Really looking forward to seeing how it looks dropped and thoughts on how it rides.

Got the Eibachs installed today, pics to follow.

Review and replies here... http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9610118

Copied below for ease of use...

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As far as I am able to tell, I'm the first 1LE owner to install the Eibach springs. I haven't seen any other posts or write-ups and I've asked for before/after pics and gotten none. So it seems safe to assume... I wanted to share my experience with the install so far. I have NOT aligned the car yet, but the steering wheel is a whole 1/2in off to the left so I doubt any feedback I have on ride will be related. I will update if necessary AFTER the alignment later this week.

Install
We installed this afternoon, we took about 3 hours with plenty of breaks and chit-chat, you can definitely do this faster (especially with a lift). The install is easy and straight-forward and the How-Tos that Phastek and Lethal have done are decent. We used Lethal's video to verify Mag-Ride equipped cars (and thus, 1LE owners) DO NOT use the extra bumpstops that Eibach includes, was nice to know.
You DO NOT need a lift to do this...
YOU DO NEED AN IMPACT! Why? Well the thing that neither how to video shows you is... What do do without an impact when you want to take the front strut hats off... Usually front struts have an allenkey and a nuts on the top... GM decided to use Star/Torx-pattern bits for this area instead of allen keys. You need a Torx T-40... and it needs to be LONG to get thru the socket you'd use on the strut bolt. We had a a T40 and ended up breaking it. We found out the impact was the way to go. But if you don't have one, I STRONGLY recommend you get one before starting the install.
Also of note: Remove the rear sensor arms for Mag Ride BEFORE dropping the control arm, otherwise you will likely break them.

How does it look?
These are rated at 1.1in drop front and rear, however that is for non-1LEs, as it certainly wasn't the case for me.
I'd say it's about a half inch drop all around at most. Looks decent, but don't expect a "slammed" look, it's not going to happen.

How does it drive?
Well I drove home in Touring mode, and put it in Sport a couple times... I did not test S/I mode or Track mode.
Here's my reactions from each...
In Sport - Ride stiffness is about the same, didn't feel much different from what I could tell.
In Touring - It's actually softer than stock, or certainly FEELS that way. For me personally, this is a welcome change as I drive in Tour most of the time and the highway near me is somewhat rough. I don't feel like the car handles any worse, I just feel like it's a little more accommodating over rough/broken/uneven pavement.
It feels a little "loose" going over large bumps/broken pavement at high speed, which is likely just the fact that it needs to be aligned, however if the situation isn't rectified with an alignment, I'd honestly consider uninstalling them.
I can say that since the standard MRC springs and 1LE Springs are likely different rates (why else would the 1LE kit come with new springs), that the Eibachs are likely an "in between" spring rate. A little softer than OEM 1LE springs, but a little more firm that factory 1SS/2SS MRC springs.

Verdict?
I'd recommend these for folks who think Touring mode isn't quite soft enough, but Sport/Track modes are fine. Because of the negligible height difference, I don't really recommend buying these for any aesthetic purpose. Personally I will keep these, as I like the slightly softer Touring mode right, but I can't say I'd have bought them if I knew that was going to be the main/only difference.

*edit* - Took a quick pic... TOP is stock 1LE springs (taken a month or more ago)... BOTTOM is Eibach... I gotta say after seeing it - it's probably only a half inch all around at best.

http://i.imgur.com/gyqTDKF.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/uEiZPFJ.jpg

Car is finished with alignment today - RotoFab intake also arrived in the mail.

Will drive the car a bit to see how I feel about the springs now that it's aligned and perhaps do a quick video on it.

Will likely install RotoFab in the next day or two.

Looking good my friend ;) I want to hear your opinion on roto fab as well

Added video to spring thread - https://youtu.be/mW2oMKnozvI

Pissing off 1LE owners this week...
Removed the hood wrap, the fender badges, rear SS badge, and then installed the big worm hash marks and the 1LE badge on the wickerbill

http://i.imgur.com/4jXYBqD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/G43H201.jpg

looking good man, do you have more pictures of the wickerbill? from different angles maybe

Looks so aggressive...love it!

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Originally Posted by glamcem (Post 9659819)

looking good man, do you have more pictures of the wickerbill? from different angles maybe

Only what is on page 2 of this thread

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Originally Posted by RideZX6R (Post 9660082)

Only what is on page 2 of this thread

yes I remember those :) I was wondering if there's another shot in broad daylight (from side and maybe with a 45 degree angle). Looks great, regardless

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Originally Posted by glamcem (Post 9660108)

yes I remember those :) I was wondering if there's another shot in broad daylight (from side and maybe with a 45 degree angle). Looks great, regardless

Want to get some of the Street Scene side skirts/rockers on it then do another photo shoot soon.

Other then potential wheel changes those rockers will round out the visual mods.

Great build! The clear taillights look really nice on the black. We're subscribed to see what else you have in store for it!

Some updates and pics...

Pulled the hoodwrap and installed 6th gen hash marks, along with removing the rear SS badge and the Camaro fender badges.

I bought some 315/35-18 Toyo TQ drag radials and some 18x10.5 C5Z replica wheels for a 1/3 mile event later in May.

I will be buying pads/lines/fluid shortly for track days to come.

Headers are on the way??? Maryland speed is dragging their feet.

This coming weekend the the Eibach springs are coming out to go back to stock along with a new alignment, and the aforementioned DRs and wheels will get mounted and I'll keep them in the garage for a bit.

Flex fuel sensor to be bought, and a tune to happen before the event in early May, hopefully the headers will be installed by then along with the TB/IM being ported. Trying for 480whp+ on E85

Car pics...
http://i.imgur.com/L7oqbxS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eE4snfn.jpg

(not my pic originally but same tires and size...)
http://i.imgur.com/ndEfMHf.jpg