2016 V6 supercharged vs. a SS, close in quarter mile?
 

I know this will come up so try to quickly answer it. Why I bought a V6 instead of SS in first place? I'm 53 yrs old and helped run a family railroad construction company last 30 yrs have always had company car and needed bit of trunk if needed to carry some heavy railroad items. So basically a Explorer, Pacifica and Venza. Didn't have to pay gas, insurance, no car payments of course. So never needed another car and really didn't care. In 2016 I left company and inherited a bit of money. I looked and looked, not a car nut by any means,


Saw great reviews on the 2016 Camaro and Motortrends car of year. Traded in Venza and wanted no car payment, pay cash for the rest and even the V6 was alot more than I planned on spending. But bit bullet and was happy as can be. SS at time were loaded and about 9 to 10 dollars higher, no way!



So now knowing I am not a racing enthusiast, Had bit more money this year and after debating for years, decided to get Procharger installed by WeaponX here in Cincinnati. They hadn't done a Camaro V6 yet and were eager to see what it could be pushed too, Official stats 335 hp at crank, 284 torque. They ended up after a day playing with it and got a impressive 433 rwhp, so roughly near 500+- at crank for drive train loss and 309 torque. It is whole different car OMG! My hypothetical question is, though more power at rear wheels than a SS, Torque is 455 compared to my now 310TQ, stock is 284. Plus car about 250 lighter than SS, So what do u guess 0 to 60 and quarter mile? Interested in all opinions, no matter what they say.

This sounded familiar and then I remembered your old post in the V6 section that I responded to a few months back, here's that response after reviewing your dyno curves:

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Originally Posted by Starbreaker1968 View Post
Ok here it is, I had WeaponX Motorsports Blake send me over copy of Dyno."


My Response: You asked how your car would compare to an SS...if you haven't raced one yet to find out, here's my thoughts on that:

Your peak numbers are good, but something that no one pointed out is how steep the hp curve is (on your curve). A steep hp curve means the average hp throughout the higher rpm rev range used in a race is lower compared to a fairly flat curve [as seen] in an SS, and thus, overall acceleration will be slower. Notice that at 4800 rpm your car is making only 275 rwhp, while a [stock] Camaro SS at 4800 rpm makes about 340 rwhp. At 5000 rpm an SS makes about 360 rwhp while your engine is making at most 300 rwhp, but likely more like 290-295 rwhp based on your curve.

An SS makes about the same amount of power at 5500 as it does at 6000 rpm (around 390-400 rwhp) but even though the peak number is lower, would likely have a higher average hp over the rev range than your engine's very steep curve.

What this means is that an SS will likely accelerate quicker than your procharged V6 since it has a flatter high rpm hp curve and thus, higher average hp.

This flat high hp curve is also why the Ford 5.0 Coyote V8 paired with an A10 transmission runs so darn well. That engine breathes well up top and paired with a close ratio transmissions, pulls hard up top really consistently.

Depending on the dyno that V6 looks to be around 15-30 rwhp higher than most stock V8's I've seen. That plus being 250 lbs lighter I wouldn't be surprised if it had a little more pull on the high end. Obviously lacks the torque though. You never know until you go and race

I think you might have a decent chance. But that TQ number tho...remember TQ is what makes the car accelerate...I mean, in a nutshell without going into a long debate on it. So look at it like this. The 5th Gen V6 Camaros matched the 4th Gen SS Camaros in HP. But the TQ between those 2 cars put the Gen 5 V6 at a 60+ deficit. And not for nothing, the 4th Gen SS is a faster car. So the question being whether or not you can take a 6th Gen SS even tho you have about 100 less TQ...I'll say it is not likely. And I do not think the weight difference is enough to offset the TQ deficit. But I have been wrong before. I suggest before racing anyone, go to the track and learn the car and see where you stand. That will give you the best idea.

I think I wrote in your first thread also.
I said it then and it hasn’t changed.
Only one real way to find out and this place is in the Cincy area
https://www.edgewaterrace.com/ And they have a test and tune this Sunday.
For 35 bucks you can go race the light.
You mods have absolutely made it a quicker and faster car, go find out how much! no pressure, you are not bracket racing, just seeing what it will do on a track, no tickets, no cops, and way more traction then any street.

Absolutely nothing wrong with owning a V6 it’s still a Camaro and you are on a Camaro forum.
Anyone that speaks ill of you for a owning a lesser model, well that speaks more of them then you
Besides if you own it outright, I sure wish I did. I might own the hood after two years of payments ��

Hit your local track do a little grudge night racing see how it goes and report back. Please

I would think it would be a fairly close race, although the SS is likely to start pulling away after a couple of gears. You should absolutely take it to a local drag strip, and see what kind of times it will do. I am very curious as there aren't many boosted V6 Camaros running around.

Armchair quarterbacking with your numbers (by the way, as nearly everyone says, you should go and test at a drag strip, you'll have a ton of fun surprising many a ricer with a "lowly" V6), you are at a serious torque deficit of at least 100 lb-ft throughout the rev range up to your last 1k where the LT1 starts to drop off, plus your last ~30 hp is strictly from being able to rev to 7k, your hp curve is very steep.

On the other hand, your car is 200 lbs lighter, which should be good for -0.2s in the quarter mile... overall I think an SS with a decent driver will pull hard on you initially in each gear, and you can't beat it in the end. Then again, if the SS spins or the driver can't shift, you can squeeze out a win, your car is definitely much closer now.

My guesstimate for your quarter mile is 12.8.

to 120 mph...stock v8 auto car would probably give you the business. m6 car would rely on the driver. above 120 i think your car would have a slight pull.

I think that had to do with weight more than anything, 4th Gens were light in comparison to 5th and even 6th Gens.

I totally agree with that. Case in point: I had the opportunity to run a stock LS1 Camaro at that track last year at the track. He ran a 13.5 at 104, and me at 13.8 at 104. Obviously the LS1 makes a lot more torque and weighs about the same as a 6th gen V6, but I'm thinking my better gearing and trans definitely helped

Pics of my Camaro 2016
 

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Very nice! My 2018 V6 is Garnet Red as well. Love that color. What did you use to black out the chrome strips on the front grill?

I think it’ll run 15’s in a quarter mile. You should run it and prove me wrong.