ZL1 Catch cans
I can't come to a common conclusion but do you need to remove the super charger lid to install a catch can system? Every tutorial i've found or thread on here shows the lid removed while doing a catch can. Is that just to clean the system once the catch can is installed? Or do you need to do this in order to get at the fitting that threads in to the front of the motor? Is it bad if I install a catch can but don't clean all that? I really don't want to be pulling off the super charger on my brand new car, but I am interested in installing a catch can to save it in the long run. Any input or links to other threads would be appreciated! Looking like mighty mouse or the motion raceworks set up is the route most people go. My car is in my signature 24 ZL1
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I may be wrong, but according do your signature your car has the black lug nuts....am I correct?....if that's the case than yes the lid needs to be removed.....if you didn't have those, the install would be much easier....good luck!
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With many of the catch cans, those that are worth installing. It's not just the "Lid" that needs removed. But the entire supercharger needs lifted up so that you can replace the stock PCV diverter valve with one that doesn't have a port that blows oil up into the supercharge. My Catch Can starts are Post #50, but I had to re-do my can because I swapped out my valve covers for a set that didn't have baffles. I went with the MightyMouse, very straight forward for line runs and hook up.
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You can't be serious. :smiling1: I guess I should have added I didn't get the upgraded muffler bearings so does that also mean I need to remove the lid? |
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I did read your post. Thanks for the input. Looks like its a bigger job than I anticipated. Can it be done, yes, i'm not worried, but its just whether I want to tamper with that or not so soon. Thanks for the help. |
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I feel you on the ghost town. I did laugh when i read it :smiling1::thumbup: |
I may be wrong but I thought I saw a YouTube video where a Corvette guy fabricated a way to install the catch can on his LT4 without messing with the supercharger. I think I saw it on here somewhere, maybe.
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On this supercharged engine, PCV valve is located under the blower on the driver side. so you have to remove the valve with a pass-through to create a non-check valve to prevent it going through the system and into the catch can first. If this sounds alien, please do not attempt this on your own. I’m guessing leaving your computer is not an option.
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Either way - it's worth it. |
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If that "girl" driver on youtube can do it. I feel I can. haha. Are you guys using new super charger bolts and a seal. Or re using the old ones? Car is only 6months old. Some tutorials use new bolts and some don't. Thanks for all the help thus far. |
Several points to add:
1. As 23_ZL1-Auto mentioned, you have to unbolt the supercharger from the engine to lift it up to replace the PCV diverter. The bolts are torque to yield. You are technically not suppose to reuse these bolts because the threads are stretched. A new set of bolts should be purchased to reattach the supercharger to the engine. 2. You have a 2024 stock ZL1 so I’m guessing you still have a good portion of your warranty remaining. Should your ZL1 have a major engine failure, there’s a very good chance GM will void the warranty if it sees the catch can. Now some may argue that you can remove the catch can prior to service. However, it’s not a simple procedure and you’re going to need a new set of bolts every time. Now it sounds like I’m arguing against a catch can. I’m not. On a modified high HP engine it makes perfect sense. On a stock engine I’m not convinced the effort to install and risk to warranty are worth it. There are a lot of GM DI engines out there with thousands of miles on them with no catch can that still run perfectly fine. |
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This is the reassurance I was looking for. Once my warranty is up I will consider it for sure. Until then, its just exactly that, do I really want to mess with something knowing I am leaving it stock. If i modify, well sure, but stock is it worth the hassle. If you didn't have to remove the super charger I may consider but having to do all that changes my thoughts on it. Quote:
Noted. This is also what I was worried about, its safer insurance just to get new bolts each time. Thanks for the info. |
If you want to stop nearly all of the oil and other contaminants there is only one that is that effective, the E2-X Ultra system. And it provides full time vacuum suction on the crankcase instead of simply venting pressure once it builds. Nothing else comes close:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-pMs0N1iHA&t=401s https://i.ytimg.com/vi/I-pMs0N1iHA/maxresdefault.jpg Catch Can Comparison Mightymouse vs Elite Engineering Ultra MightyMouse Catch Can vs Elite Engineering Ultra Catch Can, which one catches more oil, which one is better? The Elite catch can is designed by Tracy Lewis P... www.youtube.com And: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTU6FWYVMXQ https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.Oz2vQ...EwEsDh&pid=Api Elite Engineering E2-X vs Mightymouse Catch Can Shoot Out In this video I compare the Elite Engineering E2-X catch can with the MightyMouse catch can that has the new super centre in it. I want to see which one is better at trapping oil. I also run an APEX catch can during the test to evaluate the catch can design and how effective it is at trapping oil. I conducted the test by running each can for ... www.youtube.com And one more to understand the benefits of a proper full time vacuum crankcase evacuation system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOzHVwPr6NU&t=4s https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mOzHVwPr6NU/maxresdefault.jpg SDPC Tech Tips: Crankcase Vacuum and engine sealing Wanting to gain a bit more power by going with a vacuum pump or dry sump setup? Something as simple as your rear main seal could become headache when diagnos... www.youtube.com Questions? Just ask. We challenge ANY other design to even come close to the effectiveness of our Patented system. Test conducted as in the first video link so all is fair and equal. Sales questions and support? Email us direct at: Sales@EliteEngineeringUSA.com Tech questions and support? Email us direct at: Tech@EliteEngineeringUSA.com |
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I am giddy, What a stellar product! 1/8 turn quick release a highly engineered quality catch can. This is a game changer in my mind. Going to do the 500 mile garage king lid removal test, to compared it to my current can. No more 50 1/4 turns to unscrew the son of a bitch.
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OK. I am confused. I have a 2023 ZL1 1LE. I have a service tech that only works on high performance Camaros. I asked about installing a Catch Can, he said it is already installed OEM. He showed me. I took pictures. Looked lagit. Any clarification would be appreciated.
Hoses/Tubes look identical which is what is the topic. Electrical wiring / sensors look different. PN on the box looks different. corrected: 12683284 |
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Hoses/Tubes look identical which is what is the topic. Electrical wiring / sensors look different. PN on the box looks different. I can confirm, but the picture looks like 12683294 or 12383294. Let me know if you want me to confirm. Thanks! Apologies 12683284 https://www.camaro6.com/forums/data:...X7x/hHrTA//9k=https://www.camaro6.com/forums/data:...X7x/hHrTA//9k= |
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