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RDBill 02-06-2019 06:19 PM

Toyo R888R's
 
Who are running these on their ZL1's on the stock 20" wheels?


What sizes are you running?


What is your opinion of them? Do they hook? Are they as noisy as I read? Any fitment issues?


Would you buy them again? Basically any information you could give me i'd appreciate so I can make a decision on what tires to go with next.


I'm looking for a sticky street tire.... This car is not daily driven and makes more than stock power.

GT-ER 02-06-2019 07:41 PM

I'm interested as well. And pics of how the side wall looks on the oem wheel as well.

nicktechla 02-06-2019 10:38 PM

on the 20", i think the only size you can really run is 285/30ZR20 front, 315/30ZR20 rear. I keep hoping they will make a 305/30ZR20

SFV1LE 02-07-2019 02:30 AM

Don’t get R888R for track or street, they’re a bad track tire choice and will wear out too fast on street and terrible in wet. If you need 20s PSC2 are much better. And for track only just get Hoosier R7, several x better grip than Toyos on track

gonabite 02-07-2019 06:01 AM

I have them on my CTS V they provide exceptional dry traction. My car is making well over 900 RWHP and at 40 mph I can roll to WOT and the tires only slightly haze and at 60 they hook solid.

On top of that they handle in the turns great as they are meant to be a road race tire.

fosterelli 02-07-2019 07:21 AM

To each their own, but I am not a fan of the tread pattern (aesthetically). I run the PS4Ss on the street, sticky enough for my driving habits.

Juiced1 02-07-2019 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fosterelli (Post 10430993)
To each their own, but I am not a fan of the tread pattern (aesthetically). I run the PS4Ss on the street, sticky enough for my driving habits.


The PS4s are a great tire but they are miserable in the cold.



I happen to love the look of the R888rs and I hear they are great on the street too. We have a ZL1 in our shop now with them on and the customer said he loves them.

Hellobatman 02-07-2019 08:59 AM

I have the Toyos in 315 width on my stock wheels. They're wonderful.

Aliveguy5 02-07-2019 10:17 AM

Who are running these on their ZL1's on the stock 20" wheels?
I am

What sizes are you running?
285/30/20 & 315/30/20

What is your opinion of them? Do they hook? Are they as noisy as I read? Any fitment issues?
They hook extremely well, they are very noisy, no fitment issues at all.

Would you buy them again? Basically any information you could give me i'd appreciate so I can make a decision on what tires to go with next. Yes i would. They do wear kinda fast but I like the for my track days. I may try Sport Cup 2's this year as I need new tires right now but these Toyos are good Road Course tires and hook up well on the street!


I'm looking for a sticky street tire.... This car is not daily driven and makes more than stock power.

MX621 02-07-2019 11:00 AM

Toyo r888 and r888r’s are track tires that are street able. Cold/on the street you will most likely never get them hot enough to there grip level. Optimum grip is 160-220 deg on them. I’ve used two sets of them on my track car ( Acura Integra ) and when they are cold/ambient temp they have significant less grip then after a lap or two. Your much better off using a rival/re71 etc 200tw street tire. They will have full grip at ambient temps, but over heat quickly on a track

Can'tHave2MuchHP 02-07-2019 11:16 AM

Let everybody talk all of their science and whatnot.

The Toyo R888 and R888R are fantastic choices for high HP street cars that don't want to run a wobbly drag radial or slick. Yes, they have tire hum and wear quickly and you will not want to run them in a downpour or in cold (<40-50 degree) weather. However, these characteristics are true of ANY high performance tire in this class.

There are lots of members running 20" R888Rs on stock wheels on this forum, and they, like everybody else I know that runs them, rave about the tires and simply point out their normal trade offs of a high performance tire.

A Michelin Sport 4S is not in the same league as a R888R. The 4S is a great street tire for most conditions and handles LIGHT track use. The SC2 is a great tire as well, however, it does not have as much longitudinal traction as the R888/R888R. The RE71 is a great tire too, not a ton of experience with them so I won't speak with them but I've heard great results from the forums.

The R888R is my top recommendation for a high performance street tire if you can handle the trade offs. Note: if you can't handle the trade offs of the R888R then you won't be able to handle the trade offs of any tire with similar grip.

17CamaroZL1 02-07-2019 12:29 PM

No experience with the r888r, but from everything I've seen and read, I almost got a pair to try instead of buying a separate set of wheels and drag radials. I will most likely replace my stock goodyear's with the 315/30 888r when the time comes.

Aliveguy5 02-07-2019 01:11 PM

Please see below for the best description of the tire. I run them on my stock rims and will validate everything below.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Can'tHave2MuchHP (Post 10431197)
Let everybody talk all of their science and whatnot.

The Toyo R888 and R888R are fantastic choices for high HP street cars that don't want to run a wobbly drag radial or slick. Yes, they have tire hum and wear quickly and you will not want to run them in a downpour or in cold (<40-50 degree) weather. However, these characteristics are true of ANY high performance tire in this class.

There are lots of members running 20" R888Rs on stock wheels on this forum, and they, like everybody else I know that runs them, rave about the tires and simply point out their normal trade offs of a high performance tire.

A Michelin Sport 4S is not in the same league as a R888R. The 4S is a great street tire for most conditions and handles LIGHT track use. The SC2 is a great tire as well, however, it does not have as much longitudinal traction as the R888/R888R. The RE71 is a great tire too, not a ton of experience with them so I won't speak with them but I've heard great results from the forums.

The R888R is my top recommendation for a high performance street tire if you can handle the trade offs. Note: if you can't handle the trade offs of the R888R then you won't be able to handle the trade offs of any tire with similar grip.


Apexslayer 02-07-2019 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RDBill (Post 10430700)
Who are running these on their ZL1's on the stock 20" wheels?


What sizes are you running?


What is your opinion of them? Do they hook? Are they as noisy as I read? Any fitment issues?


Would you buy them again? Basically any information you could give me i'd appreciate so I can make a decision on what tires to go with next.


I'm looking for a sticky street tire.... This car is not daily driven and makes more than stock power.

I've been using the r888r's on my evo ever since they came out - They are a great road and track tire. I leave them on all summer/fall. I drive to the track, set the pressures (they stick really well if pressures are set right), reset the pressures at the end of the day and rive home! Best grip/convenience for the buck for me on the Evo! If i were ever going to make a change I would go to real track tire, but that would spoil the convenience of driving to the track and home without lugging too many extra tires.

Jchaluja 02-07-2019 04:57 PM

Same here, wanting to buy the Toyo’s....just to confirm, no rubbing or need to relocate anything, correct?

RDBill 02-07-2019 06:01 PM

Thank you guys! You confirmed everything i've read but eased my mind before making the purchase

GT-ER 02-07-2019 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellobatman (Post 10431069)
I have the Toyos in 315 width on my stock wheels. They're wonderful.

Can you please post a picture of how the sidewall looks at an angle? I'm afraid it'll poke out too much. I want this tire badly.

hammdo 02-07-2019 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Can'tHave2MuchHP (Post 10431197)
Let everybody talk all of their science and whatnot.

The Toyo R888 and R888R are fantastic choices for high HP street cars that don't want to run a wobbly drag radial or slick. Yes, they have tire hum and wear quickly and you will not want to run them in a downpour or in cold (<40-50 degree) weather. However, these characteristics are true of ANY high performance tire in this class.

There are lots of members running 20" R888Rs on stock wheels on this forum, and they, like everybody else I know that runs them, rave about the tires and simply point out their normal trade offs of a high performance tire.

A Michelin Sport 4S is not in the same league as a R888R. The 4S is a great street tire for most conditions and handles LIGHT track use. The SC2 is a great tire as well, however, it does not have as much longitudinal traction as the R888/R888R. The RE71 is a great tire too, not a ton of experience with them so I won't speak with them but I've heard great results from the forums.

The R888R is my top recommendation for a high performance street tire if you can handle the trade offs. Note: if you can't handle the trade offs of the R888R then you won't be able to handle the trade offs of any tire with similar grip.

I’ve had my R888Rs for over a year.

Can'tHave2MuchHP Is absolutely right on with the analysis... like roller skates in the rain...

Love mine. Stock 5th Gen ZL1 wheels, I have 2 sets! 1 set for street, 1 set for track days (local track ;o)

http://www.accelerationtech.com/phot...202_150132.jpg

http://www.accelerationtech.com/phot...202_150327.jpg

And yes, Z/LE — built this 5 years ago before any talk of a ZL1 1LE (ZL1, 1LE, Z/28 GMPP parts) - Recaros too!

-Don

Rodan 02-07-2019 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT-ER (Post 10431637)
Can you please post a picture of how the sidewall looks at an angle? I'm afraid it'll poke out too much. I want this tire badly.

R888R in 285/315 on stock size HREs...

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4807/...74cf99f9_c.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4912/...c5fdb516_c.jpg

GT-ER 02-07-2019 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodan (Post 10431723)

Awesome, I can live with that. Thanks.

DOHCVTEC 02-07-2019 11:11 PM

so how bad is the noise? what can you compare it to?

Spidamanz 03-05-2019 10:25 AM

will a 315/30/20 fit on my 17 SS 1LE with out rubbing? I am assuming if they fit the zl1 with out issues that that I should be fine. I know they wont work on the SS with out modification.

Can'tHave2MuchHP 03-05-2019 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spidamanz (Post 10452630)
will a 315/30/20 fit on my 17 SS 1LE with out rubbing? I am assuming if they fit the zl1 with out issues that that I should be fine. I know they wont work on the SS with out modification.

Yes they'll fit without issue. Look at Lethal Garage's videos on it.

GrabTheWheel 03-05-2019 11:24 PM

I still don't think you can find a better 20" tire for the money than the factory Goodyear. I thought they were great for street and track.

Stephen12ZL1 03-06-2019 06:08 AM

Toyo R888 & R versions hum like monster mudders too

Gonasurvive 03-06-2019 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jchaluja (Post 10431507)
Same here, wanting to buy the Toyo’s....just to confirm, no rubbing or need to relocate anything, correct?

On the 6th gen you have to move the Driver side rear tire wire harness and use a 5mm spacer, this is at least from what Lethal Garage is saying. Skip to 10:35 and he starts to talk about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQZggYFeTTM

kttxz06 03-06-2019 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RDBill (Post 10430700)
Who are running these on their ZL1's on the stock 20" wheels?


What sizes are you running?


What is your opinion of them? Do they hook? Are they as noisy as I read? Any fitment issues?


Would you buy them again? Basically any information you could give me i'd appreciate so I can make a decision on what tires to go with next.


I'm looking for a sticky street tire.... This car is not daily driven and makes more than stock power.




IMO. Best street/drag tire out b4 going full drag radial. Will hold up to around 750 HP. Anything over and you need a DR. They start blowing off once you hit 800 HP. If you don't plan on going that high on HP, I'd go with another tire like the 4S or staying with the Goodyears. Again, just my opinion.

Drew778 03-08-2019 01:17 AM

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BFG 285/35-20’s on the front
R888R 315/30-20’s on the back

No issues at all

vr46 10-17-2019 05:39 PM

Anyone run the Toyo r888r on the ZL1 1LE? OEM sizes...305/30 19f & 325/30 19r?

Would like to hear if they're better in anyway then the OEM Goodyear ESF1-3R's.

Faster lap times? Do they last longer?

If not that big of a difference, I'd personally stay with the Goodyears as I believe they're less expensive then the r888r, no?

mlee 10-17-2019 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vr46 (Post 10642715)
Anyone run the Toyo r888r on the ZL1 1LE? OEM sizes...305/30 19f & 325/30 19r?

Would like to hear if they're better in anyway then the OEM Goodyear ESF1-3R's.

Faster lap times? Do they last longer?

If not that big of a difference, I'd personally stay with the Goodyears as I believe they're less expensive then the r888r, no?

Had some great conversations around these on the autoX course at CamaroCon. I'm a huge fan of the GY 3R on the road track but they take a couple laps to warm up which makes them not too good for AutoX.

The guys running Toyo had good grip from the start and these tires are also legal to use in most SCCA classes as well. I might give them a try on my second set of wheels, but not giving up GY for the road track.

Too_Fast 10-17-2019 10:51 PM

I have been running these for some time on the street. I love them & will get them again. Great grip on dry compared to the stock tires and not too bad in wet as long as you take it easy. Running the 315 on back

GunMetalGrey 10-17-2019 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vr46 (Post 10642715)
Anyone run the Toyo r888r on the ZL1 1LE? OEM sizes...305/30 19f & 325/30 19r?

Would like to hear if they're better in anyway then the OEM Goodyear ESF1-3R's.

Faster lap times? Do they last longer?

If not that big of a difference, I'd personally stay with the Goodyears as I believe they're less expensive then the r888r, no?

While I have no experience with R888R's or SC3R's, everything I have read (tests and reviews) and heard from members on this forum with experience tells me they are definitely not as good on the track as the SC3R but better for the street in that they take less time to warm up where as the SC3R sounds like it's basically too difficult to warm up on the street.

Again I have no experience with either tire, but will be trying the SC3R next track season based on hearing that these tires never get greasy and lap times never fall off, until they start cording at least.

EDFHOBBIES 10-18-2019 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vr46 (Post 10642715)
Anyone run the Toyo r888r on the ZL1 1LE? OEM sizes...305/30 19f & 325/30 19r?

Would like to hear if they're better in anyway then the OEM Goodyear ESF1-3R's.

Faster lap times? Do they last longer?

If not that big of a difference, I'd personally stay with the Goodyears as I believe they're less expensive then the r888r, no?

I run 345 30 19 haven't had the chance to use at the track yet but they feel pretty good especially of the line!

I saw one guy running the the Kumho V770 ACR tires setup.. 355 30 19 and he tracks his car and likes them a lot!

arpad_m 10-18-2019 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Too_Fast (Post 10642893)
I have been running these for some time on the street. I love them & will get them again. Great grip on dry compared to the stock tires and not too bad in wet as long as you take it easy. Running the 315 on back

Too_Fast, how much louder are these R888R's compared to stock?

Markoz28 10-18-2019 07:14 AM

I have the R’s in 325/30/20 size. Grip for days! Love the look too. They are significantly louder than my stock GYSCs but doesn’t bother me one bit.

EDFHOBBIES 10-18-2019 09:32 AM

They sound like a bad wheel bearing!

waterman 10-18-2019 09:57 AM

FWIW, GY3Rs are now available in OEM ZL1 sizes 285 and 305/30/20.
Conversely, GY3s are now available in OEM ZLE sizes 305and 325/30/19.

You might consider the GYs, IMHO a superior tire.

Too_Fast 10-18-2019 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arpad_m (Post 10642984)
Too_Fast, how much louder are these R888R's compared to stock?

They are much louder ( but my car is loud and drowns it out ), but I could tell once they had a few miles on them.

nicktechla 10-18-2019 12:48 PM

I wish they'd make a 305/30/20 r888r

Rodan 10-18-2019 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waterman (Post 10643111)
FWIW, GY3Rs are now available in OEM ZL1 sizes 285 and 305/30/20.
Conversely, GY3s are now available in OEM ZLE sizes 305and 325/30/19.

You might consider the GYs, IMHO a superior tire.

FWIW, a set of 3Rs in the 20" sizes is $200 more than a set in 19" at tirerack... :mad0260:

So the 3R is really only a bargain in the ZLE sizes.

The R888Rs are almost R7 money, but would certainly last a lot longer.


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