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I finally got my new harness system hooked up. It works great. My last car had a harness bar and tank plates. That system worked fine but in my new ZL1 1LE I really did not want to mount a harness bar in it. Thanks to the help of some members in here I found a harness called the Schroth Rallye 4 ASM harness. The back seat harness mounts to the existing seat belt location bolts and the front lap belts mount under the front seat rear rail bolts. The harness can be unhooked and hidden in the back floor board when not in use. Both front and rear factory seat belts are still functional and can be used. Not expensive at all either. Now I am set for my first track day at Roebling Road in Savannah, Georgia on November 11 and 12.
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Nice!
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That's pretty cool!
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Double check with your tech people with whatever organization you're running with. Some will not allow this system.
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I checked and they are ok with it. This is a HPDE event not racing. I remember last year a few folks had this setup. I just could not remember the name of it. This will be better than mounting the harness bar like my old setup.
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Go to your local Chevy dealer and have parts order a seat belt extender for a 2018 Camaro. They are no charge from GM.
Cut the webbing from the part that inserts into the stock buckle. Insert it when you are using your Schroth Rallye 4 ASM harness. Keeps the seat belt warning system from activating. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....kL._SX522_.jpg |
I cant find anything for the Camaro (or Chevy in general) on the website. Did you just use the Ford harness?
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Great stuff. I'll have to pick a set of those up when I get my ZL1.
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This is super cool! i do a lot a rec track days and slide around like crazy
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I wonder how safe these are routed through the head rest how you have it. Is it comfortable around your neck when you are locked in? How tall are you if you dont mind me asking.
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Keep in mind, some sanctioning bodies will not allow these (NASA is the main one that comes to mind). It does not meet their requirements.
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interesting. subscribed.
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Can't have both. Hence why I went with the cage and full harness. This system (the OP) is a great solution for holding you in place during track driving. Much better than stock belts. Good protection for a more modest wreck. Not such a great solution if you have a significant interaction with a wall. Combination of the tracks I run and some of the wrecks I've seen, decided to go the cage and harness route. I'm actually looking to replace the stock seats with a halo seat for next season. Worst wreck I've seen personally a friend completely destroyed his GT350R in the Kink at RA and walked away. Said his Harnesses and HANS device worked perfectly, but he would not have been ok without the Halo seat (side to side head and neck protection). Like most things....its a matter of how much you want to mod, how much you want to spend, how safe you want to be. |
The Schroth's Quick Fit Pro is HANS device compatible. There is a BMW model that will work with GM seat belt recepticles. Need to check the BMW model number.
Expensive, $345. tnspd how did you remove the bottom rear seat cushion to install the belts to the seat belt bolts? |
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Same set-up I ran in my 5th gen 1LE for autocross, the harness passed tech inspection at a SCCA National level for autocross 3 times with no issue in 2 different classes FS and CAM
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Quick fit pro not made for Camaro. Looking for Buckle compatibility
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https://www.schrothracing.com/produc...fi-ii-asm#1598
These are DOT approved (due to the buckle design), can be used with a HANS, and can be upgraded to a 5 or 6-point true anti-submarine later. I have these in my car with the Brey Krause R-1155 harness bar and use them with my HANS devices, both driver and passenger. Yes, I'd rather have the full (NHRA) certified 12-point cage that is in my street / strip drag Firebird. If I end up buying a ZL1 1LE to go along with my SS 1LE late in the year, one of these, probably the SS 1LE, will get caged with two full containment seats, a fire suppression system (in car, underhood, and underneath like my Firebird). |
I did not want to add a harness bar I just wanted the Quick Fit Pro set up. As stated in the other post if there is a BMW buckle that works in the Camaro it would just clip in and out for HPDE driving. Otherwise, I am going to buy this
https://www.schrothracing.com/produc...lye-belts#1575 Not as elegant as the Quick Fit option. |
I am a FIRM believer that "to each is own", so I do not make too many comments about what others do, BUT
There is no way in hell I would want to be harnessed upright in a vehicle without a roll bar or cage. But i'm in a love affair with my head and don't want to loose it or it's option. :sorry: |
I worry about this for three reasons, of course it will hold you in during spirited driving, but...in the event of an accident:
1) Belts through headrest could injure your neck, and HANS device won't work with this... 2) No fifth point leaves open the possibility of submarining (sliding out through the bottom) 3) The harness straps lead downward to a point below your shoulders. Geometry and physics dictate this will compress your spine in a net-forward-momentum impact. (These seats aren't designed to support those forces to prevent it) Not trying to be a debbie-downer...but these are things I've been told in the past by many high performance drivers, and amateur racers. I have also been told (because I've looked into this solution) that IF I chose to do it...I should plan to wear the factory seatbelt at the same time. If you look at pro-racers, or manufacturer-designed harnesses, NONE of them are done up like this. All of which lead to my skepticism. I may be over-thinking it... :iono: |
I ran this set up at Roebling a couple months back. It worked great for what I wanted it to do. I am very happy with the setup.
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Was there an answer provided about which BMW model belts would work? |
I used the universal Schroth Rallye 4 ASM harness. It has eyelets at all 4 connections. I am not aware of the BMW ones.
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I chose to go this route..with race seats and full harnesses
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Hi Chub2000,
Who did you get the roll bar from? Who makes the roll bar? Looks great. We need more pictures when you get it finished. Thanks, Sam. |
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Great looking cage, keep us all posted with pics on the rest of your install! Curious what seats you picked? Got my Studio RSR 4pt, Skid Mark Garage RSD kit and Driven seats installed and hitting the track in three weeks. Have another thread going on trying to get the airbag light defeated.....argh......but really happy with the set-up other than that pesky airbag. :mad: Good luck with the rest of your install....looking good! :thumbsup: |
Just got mine installed yesterday. I also do track events (HPDE) and this will be great. I do not think this would work for someone that is on the heavy side.
I'm 6'0 and 175 and drive with seat way up for the track and there is not a whole lot of adjustment out once I'm buckled in. I will try it tonight with my HANS and see how it feels. I think it will work fine with the device. |
WOW! 2010REDSS your install looks AMAZING!! Great work
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2010REDSS your install looks great.
Did you buy the rear seat delete as a kit? I have been looking for set up that fits this good. Thanks, Sam. |
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