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Caerus 09-06-2023 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike818 (Post 11355856)
Well there is your data point. Yikes

2020 RGM A10 ZLE 16,400 miles clean tittle - $63k

This got a lot of exposure too, my youtube algorithm fed me 2 different add videos for this car.

The owner of this ZL1 made this interesting statement in the comments section:

"Ive already had offerings for the car in the high 70s and low 80s before i decided to put the vehicle on this platform. Specifically because of its low production numbers."

If true, he probably regrets selling it at this auction site. Or this really is fair market value. KBB private party excellent condition lists value at $67k with a range of ($64.5-69.5k).

Mike818 09-06-2023 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CalgaryZL1 (Post 11355887)
If you ever read the label on any product you have ever bought, Everything you buy has a California warning. Even if it’s sold in Canada it’s hilarious. I learned you do not buy coloured toilet paper without a warning.

:smiling1: Don't sweat it. Everyone knows as long as you aren't in California that stuff can't hurt you.

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Originally Posted by Caerus (Post 11355899)
The owner of this ZL1 made this interesting statement in the comments section:

"Ive already had offerings for the car in the high 70s and low 80s before i decided to put the vehicle on this platform. Specifically because of its low production numbers."

If true, he probably regrets selling it at this auction site. Or this really is fair market value. KBB private party excellent condition lists value at $67k with a range of ($64.5-69.5k).

If true, it would seem the seller F'd up with the reserve price.

m6-lt1 09-06-2023 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Caerus (Post 11355899)
The owner of this ZL1 made this interesting statement in the comments section:

"Ive already had offerings for the car in the high 70s and low 80s before i decided to put the vehicle on this platform. Specifically because of its low production numbers."

If true, he probably regrets selling it at this auction site. Or this really is fair market value. KBB private party excellent condition lists value at $67k with a range of ($64.5-69.5k).

It’s fair market value. Nobody is paying 70+k for a 4 year old zle. Values are coming back down to earth. Dealers are no longer offering decent trade in and sellers are learning they can’t sell for retail anymore. I’d be willing to bet dealers are negotiating as well from their ridiculous asking prices.

I believe Ted Jenetty said in the 1le Fb group he picked up a 2018 zle with sub 5k miles for under 65k. I’m seeing more sub 70k Zle’s in the sell section of this forum and the ones that are over 70 are sitting.

Z OH 6 09-06-2023 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by m6-lt1 (Post 11355944)
It’s fair market value. Nobody is paying 70+k for a 4 year old zle. Values are coming back down to earth. Dealers are no longer offering decent trade in and sellers are learning they can’t sell for retail anymore. I’d be willing to bet dealers are negotiating as well from their ridiculous asking prices.

I believe Ted Jenetty said in the 1le Fb group he picked up a 2018 zle with sub 5k miles for under 65k. I’m seeing more sub 70k Zle’s in the sell section of this forum and the ones that are over 70 are sitting.

Yup. And the reality is not everyone wants a 1LE either so that could hurt value as well.

Mike818 09-06-2023 07:53 PM

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...elby-gt500-57/

Will be interesting to see what this goes for.

HemiDave 09-07-2023 10:06 AM

I would wait to see the new GT500 or Cobra, with a rumored manual transmission option and 800+ HP, before I plunked down 80K on this.

Mustang V8's are still in the game.

Palutz 09-07-2023 10:08 AM

That A10 drove a lot of people away. The ZLE was made for the M6 and yes the paddles are faster but they take away from the rawness of the experience.

Z OH 6 09-07-2023 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike818 (Post 11356050)
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...elby-gt500-57/

Will be interesting to see what this goes for.

These cars are holding their value extremely well so I wouldn't expect it to sell for less than new MSRP pricing.

Z OH 6 09-07-2023 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Palutz (Post 11356272)
That A10 drove a lot of people away. The ZLE was made for the M6 and yes the paddles are faster but they take away from the rawness of the experience.

No, the A10 still far outsells the M6, it is the most desirable transmission statistically. I understand there's a niche group of people that still wants a manual but those people are getting harder and harder to find.

LeonardS 09-07-2023 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Z OH 6 (Post 11356298)
No, the A10 still far outsells the M6, it is the most desirable transmission statistically. I understand there's a niche group of people that still wants a manual but those people are getting harder and harder to find.

Not true. For 2023 there were 442 ZLE’s built. 206 had M6 and 236 had A10. I wouldn’t call that “A10 still far outsells the M6”. More, yes, far outsells, no.

Z OH 6 09-07-2023 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LeonardS (Post 11356328)
Not true. For 2023 there were 442 ZLE’s built. 206 had M6 and 236 had A10. I wouldn’t call that “A10 still far outsells the M6”. More, yes, far outsells, no.

I'm talking about across ALL ZL1 sales, so yea its very much true. And before you proceed to tell me that the car posted here was not just a ZL1, but a ZL1 1LE, I would say that most 1LE owners don't buy it for its track capabilities, they bought it for its looks. That's pretty obvious by the amount of people that buy 1LEs for daily drivers and drag racing and never have any intentions of putting them on a road course. The fact is, a 1LE is just another ZL1 with a track package and most people don't care about that other than they want the appearance. GM might as well have called it an appearance package and left the suspension as a track option.

JSH 09-07-2023 12:11 PM

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Better appreciation than... Bitcoin in its heyday.

m6-lt1 09-07-2023 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JSH (Post 11356351)
Better appreciation than... Bitcoin in its heyday.

List price and sale price are two totally different things. Personally I don’t see this selling for more than low 80’s.

Z OH 6 09-07-2023 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by m6-lt1 (Post 11356354)
List price and sale price are two totally different things. Personally I don’t see this selling for more than low 80’s.

Good to see there are still some people here with common sense.


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