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Old 06-30-2010, 01:45 PM   #18
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Well, color me excited! Finally, DI in a V8. And, to all the naysayers, let's think about the birth of the LS block. First, 5.7 (LS1, LS6). Then 4.8, 5.3 (LM7, LZ9, LS4), 6.0 (LQ4, LQ9, L76), 6.2, 7.0, 6.2SC. This is the first of many. GM has many tricks up their sleeve. We just don't hear about it because the government owns too much of our "stock". Please be patient, naysayers. Let GM go IPO, where the American people can own the company again, and the lips will loose!
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Old 06-30-2010, 02:10 PM   #19
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more horsepower, yessss, GM is listening to us.
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Old 06-30-2010, 02:17 PM   #20
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It's definitely good news. At least there's a possibility we'll keep the V8 in Gen 6, and one that's packing 440hp nonetheless. While the loss of TQ will probably sting, it's still a V8, and that's all I'm happy about.
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Old 06-30-2010, 02:25 PM   #21
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440 horse, 3600 lbs., 30 mpg's?!?!?! If the rumors are true about the 6th gen, I'm going to want one of those too!!!
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Old 06-30-2010, 02:52 PM   #22
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Oh does that engine compartment look nice and clean!!
It looks like you just opened up a jewelery box, and the engine is the diamond.
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Old 06-30-2010, 03:07 PM   #23
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5.5 pushing 440 really doesn't sound to impressive to me.
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Same here, significantly smaller and insignificant power increase? Cool, i guess...
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Old 06-30-2010, 03:14 PM   #24
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440 HP? Im hoping it will be well north of that, at least above the output of the new 6.4L HEMI.

I dont think it would be much of a problem, even with the smaller displacement.
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Old 06-30-2010, 03:15 PM   #25
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we'll see.... things will change before then i guarantee!
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Old 06-30-2010, 03:28 PM   #26
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Oh does that engine compartment look nice and clean!!
It looks like you just opened up a jewelery box, and the engine is the diamond.
LOL! nice.
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Old 06-30-2010, 03:48 PM   #27
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I think this is exciting. When I imagine a smaller, lighter Camaro paired with this really advanced proposed new engine, I'm thinking the 6th gen Camaro will be a solid mid 12 second car. And once you add forced induction to the mix, the car will be scary fast.

I'm just wondering if the new engine will have higher compression than the LS3's? Most likely.
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Old 06-30-2010, 03:50 PM   #28
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While the next hemi willl be nice it's still too heavy of a car especially if they keep the iron block a few mods and the whatever little advantage it has will be negated.Plus price wise SRT will compete more with the Z28 which will spank the SRT if it goes into production plus the aftermarket for dodge sucks compared to Chevy.


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only cause thats a while away... (next gen camaro)
and already... the refreshed Chally SRT-8 is gonna be packin' 480HP...very soon.

the camaro (in the HP wars) needs to top 'em all! (SS-wise, not counting Z28)
we shall see....
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Old 06-30-2010, 04:11 PM   #29
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A few notes:

Yes, it could get the new engine. Yes it could be faster, yes it could also kill the new SRT8 Challenger. Yes it could have 440 HP but less torque than the current LS3. Yes it could be awesome.

Yes a Z28, LSA powered Camaro could beat the new 6.4L Hemi Challenger. Yes it could kill it.

But it isnt, its speculation. The 6.4L IS going into the Challenger SRT8 with 480 HP. Basic bolt on mods (such as a catback, tune, longtubes and CAI) will put it over 500 crank HP, if not closer to 525. If it does get a new automatic dont expect the overall weight to raise more than 20 pounds, and it will already be lighter due to the fact it is based on the 5.7L Hemi, and not the 6.1L.

The simple fact is Dodge and Ford have put new engines in their vehicles and have listened to complaints and suggestions. The 2011 Mustang in every trim has either recieved new engines or raises in power. The 2011 Challenger SRT8 has a new engine and is getting a better interior and other changes.

What has the Camaro recieved? a HUD and a new color of paint for the SS. Now GM couldnt do anything really, but they MUST *MUST* do something other than throw a convertible onto the market for next year. The Z28 isnt confirmed, so it doesnt count, I'm sorry.



GM is now compeletly behind in the 2011 HP/Pony/Muscle car wars and has lost the 2011 model year features/numbers war in bragging rights except for 2010 sales. The 2011 GT500 with 550 HP and the 480 HP SRT8 Challenger both overpower and can outrun a LS3 SS. Of course drivers will make the difference.

Do something GM, 2010 was so awesome for you, and I want 2012 to be again awesome. Take 2011 to understand that you cant sit back and gloat, or you WILL lose the war, no matter what battles you won.
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Old 06-30-2010, 04:52 PM   #30
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Why are so many assuming that a 5.5L DI engine will lose a lot of torque? I can't imagine the torque curves on the the new engine and LS3 would be that different. It is going to maintain the same basic cam in block, OHV architecture. And besides, the LS3s current 6700 redline, and peak power/torque coming at 5900/4600 isn't what I would call a low-RPM biased motor to begin with. I don't see the new engine's power and torque curves moving up the RPM band a whole lot from that.

Even if it does, there is always an easy solution to a 10% (hypothetical) torque loss: 10% shorter gearing (or in the case of the 6th gen Camaro, 10% less weight). I am confident that in the new, lighter 6th gen platform, this engine will accelerate the car better at all RPMs, so we'll be able to look at the fuel economy increase as a bonus, not a trade off.
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Old 06-30-2010, 05:01 PM   #31
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That is why I wanted the first run of camaros when i heard about the cafe standards a while back, I had a feeling the Government would restrict the HP we could have from the factory, I would not take anything for my LS3 6 speed manual I Love this Car. Got 21,000 mikes on her and plan to drive forever.
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Old 06-30-2010, 05:07 PM   #32
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Ford did add the 5.slow, but modified it in every way possible to give it the horsepower it needed, you really cant do much to make it faster. This is a huge step backwards and the sales will show, Thank God I got mine when I did, I will never put a lower displacement engine in it when this one is finally done.

I actually feel sorry for the new corvette, the European market is going to slaughter it!!!!
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Old 06-30-2010, 05:14 PM   #33
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The new engine will have MORE power in a LIGHTER car. What's the problem? What is wrong with modern technology?
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i am happy... now my 6.2L will be even more rare in the future
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