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Old 04-06-2010, 06:56 PM   #43
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I'm sayin, the edmunds has the 2011 5.0 stang GT dyno 395rwhp.

wtf is that all about?

Streetfire.net has a 1/4 2011 5.0 walking away from an SS

I think we are going to see allot of ss folks upset.... Camaro needs to lose some weight
I think we already voted that that driver of the SS was on a coffee break when they started the race.
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Old 04-06-2010, 06:59 PM   #44
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It has to be a V8! Putting in anything else would be a abomination! Plus, I don't want to have to change my name to American V6..........


What about a return to a 327 (5.4L) V8? Much less a 302...
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:00 PM   #45
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:46 PM   #46
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I like the sound of smaller and lighter, and that it could be here as early as 2015. But I won't buy one unless it has a V8; I need that V8 sound. I can handle a smaller displacement V8 as long as the power to weight ratio is at least equal.

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I don't trust MT...almost up until production started, they were calling the 5th gen a 2009 and saying it had an LS2.
Well the car did come out in 2009, even if they called it a 2010. And the concept did have an LS2 in it. If the trend continues, it will be better than they predicted, just like the 5th gen.
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:47 PM   #47
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I would expect a smaller displacement V8 with direct injection at some point. If you take the HP/cubic inch in the LLT and add a couple of cylinders the numbers start getting interesting.
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Old 04-06-2010, 08:14 PM   #48
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you know ... one of the reasons I sold my 2000 SS was that I did not feel safe or comfy in that car any longer. Furthermore one of the reasons I bought my New 2010 SS was that it IS LARGE, yet it is BIG with extra LBS... Thats what I wanted. Now I drive my 2.5 yrd old and 4.5 year old around to the park and feel safe. The F5 is a tank, no joke. We all know it. People don't like the how thick the A pillars are by the windows or the B pilliars but that says to me that in case I go inverted I have some density to help me. Sure the new 5.0 mustang is lighter maybe with the same power, but sure as shit I don't think I would feel good with my kids in the back. ZETA FTW in IMO. Just a two door G8. yup I like the size and weight.
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Old 04-06-2010, 08:52 PM   #49
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2015? Who cares.
Youre right.. who cares? The world is going to end in late December 2012 anyway.
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Old 04-06-2010, 09:09 PM   #50
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Remember they could very well go away from the good ol' pushrod V8's. You have CAFE standards that will be in place by 2016, so the top tier Camaro could very well be a turbo V6 of some sort.

If they can get the same power with better gas mileage out a V6 I say
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!! The power isnt the point, the heritage is! No V8 means no thanks for me! That would be the most depressing news for me...
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Old 04-06-2010, 09:09 PM   #51
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Well the car did come out in 2009, even if they called it a 2010. And the concept did have an LS2 in it. If the trend continues, it will be better than they predicted, just like the 5th gen.
yeah, but come on...I understand why they were calling it a '09/LS2, but we knew like 4 years ago the LS2 was ending it's run and the Camaro was NOT gonna have an LS2.
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Old 04-07-2010, 01:03 PM   #52
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CAFE doesn't mean the end of the pushrod V8. After all, the pushrod V8s in Chevy trucks get better mileage than the OHC V8s in the Dodge, Ford, and Toyota trucks. My money is on the next generation Camaro having a 5.x liter DI V8, with maybe slightly less power, but with a lighter platform, better power:weight.

The Camaro needs to have a V8. There are plently of sports cars that are just as fast, and probably even more fun to drive. The unique rumble of a V8 is what makes the Camaro different. If I just wanted a fast car, and didn't care if it made a buzzy drone, I'd buy a 370Z.
Okay, what OHC V-8 is in the Dodge Truck? The Hemi is a pushrod.

Otherwise, I have no issues for smaller lighter, and powered adequately. Nothing wrong with that.

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Old 04-07-2010, 01:07 PM   #53
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I'm not going to get worried. As others have said it is just silly to speculate 5 years out. One of the first articles I read about the current Camaro back in 04 or 05 listed a turbo or supercharged version of the 5 cylinder out of the Colorado as a likely engine. Didn't happen.

V8s are not old archaic technology. People lose 2-4 cylinders, strap on a blower or turbo and act like they have the newest evolution in the internal combustion engine. Turbos and blowers have been around for decades. Like everything else with automobiles they have become more effective, more reliable, and cheaper thus they are more prevalent in the mainstream market. The "old" LS platform gets far better mileage than the V6 out of my S-10 which is barely 7 years older. Someone please show me a factory turbo/blower car that makes 400+hp and sells for 32-35,000.

They don't need to do away with the V8. It just needs to continue to get better.If you think you are going to get a turbo six making the same power without a price increase, you are crazy. My 2 cents. There will always be V8 American sports cars just as there will always be V12 European exotics. And thank God for both.
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Old 04-07-2010, 01:12 PM   #54
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I read this last month.
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Old 04-07-2010, 01:19 PM   #55
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Lightweight and lots of power sounds good to me. Doesn't have to be an 8.
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:33 PM   #56
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Jeese, the car has been back for barely a year and we're already speculating on the next generation haha, hopefully it wont be a whole new generation but just a refresher like the 73-74 conversion or 97-98, a whole new generation just after like 4 years seems a little hasty. Also if the Camaro drops the V8 altogether im off the bandwagon lol, im sorry im a die hard Camaro fan but a Camaro isnt a Camaro without a V8, its just a Cobalt with Camaro skin. Same with the Mustang or Challenger, its just not the real car without that signature V8, i dont care how you argue it or how you force induce the piss out of it to make it seem awsome, im a V8 guy and no amount of forced induction on a V6 will ever win me over from that.

On a lighter note though i am excited for the new refresh, i never liked the Camaro being on a 4-door platform and once the new Alpha comes around maybe we'll see Camaros that are smaller than Mustangs, and wouldnt that be AMAZING if they were lighter hahaha, imagine rubbing it in all those Ford guy's faces that now THEIR car would be the fat pig, after all the hell they gave us over it.
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