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Old 03-02-2017, 03:05 PM   #1
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First Whipple LT4 Start up - bolt on 700whp!

We've been working with Whipple on some little things this week as we installed the first unit on a CTS V gen 3 which shares the same engine as the beloved ZL1. I have to say this thing looks right at home in the engine bay of the LT4! It really fills up the space between the heads.

We're still in the testing process, but the very fist pull with this wagon wheel pulley on it laid down over 600whp at 10psi without any timing in it at all. We have 3 smaller pulleys to try and although the blower design is a little different, we made 750whp on our Mustang dyno at 14psi on a 17 Escalade with our ported LT4 heads and supporting mods.


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Old 03-02-2017, 05:15 PM   #2
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That whine is what I need. The stock one just isn't giving the tingles lol.
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Old 03-02-2017, 05:18 PM   #3
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the Whipple cover looks a lot better than OEM IMO
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Old 03-02-2017, 05:45 PM   #4
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I'd be curious on the effects it would have on the cooling systems. Chevrolet put a lot of R&D into keeping everything cool....
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Old 03-02-2017, 09:37 PM   #5
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That whine is what I need. The stock one just isn't giving the tingles lol.
Agreed. The LT4's whine sucks big donkey balls. Can barely hear the damn thing, even with an intake.
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Old 03-03-2017, 08:32 AM   #6
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That whine is what I need. The stock one just isn't giving the tingles lol.
I have two allocations left if you want one, the first 50 are gone and no more till summer.

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I'd be curious on the effects it would have on the cooling systems. Chevrolet put a lot of R&D into keeping everything cool....
This blower compresses 64% more air per revolution, so more power with less boost. Stock blower makes about 10-11psi, this at 11psi made nearly 100whp more!

This blower is all you'd need to walk a stock Hellcat! Do a cat delete and pulley down and you're walking a pullied Hellcat! I can't wait till my A10 gets here... I have one waiting for it LOL
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Old 03-03-2017, 08:35 AM   #7
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I have two allocations left if you want one, the first 50 are gone and no more till summer.



This blower compresses 64% more air per revolution, so more power with less boost. Stock blower makes about 10-11psi, this at 11psi made nearly 100whp more!

This blower is all you'd need to walk a stock Hellcat! Do a cat delete and pulley down and you're walking a pullied Hellcat! I can't wait till my A10 gets here... I have one waiting for it LOL
Great stuff Ben! When are you or Whipple going to make one for the LSA?

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Old 03-03-2017, 09:11 AM   #8
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I'd be curious on the effects it would have on the cooling systems. Chevrolet put a lot of R&D into keeping everything cool....
Good point. I'm guessing the front coolers are still working to keep this thing cool as well. Hope we get some before / after IAT2 numbers if possible.
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Old 03-03-2017, 09:51 AM   #9
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Good point. I'm guessing the front coolers are still working to keep this thing cool as well. Hope we get some before / after IAT2 numbers if possible.
The bricks inside the Whipple are about twice the size of the LT4, you can see how much wider it is sitting over the heads. For the front coolers, while the factory HX are OK, they're surprisingly inefficient for having three of them. The HX are the same on the V3 as the ZL1 as well. We already have the Triple HX kit for both cars since they're identical and recovery time was reduced by 400%! But that's also because we have 154% more fluid in ours

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Individual cooler numbers:
Side Cooler Stock: 15oz (444ml)
Side Cooler WXM: 27.5oz (813ml)
Volume Increase: 12.5oz (369ml)
=83% Increase in cooler volume

Center Cooler Stock: 19.5oz (577ml)
Center Cooler WXM: 60oz (1,774ml)
Volume Increase: 40.5oz (1,197ml)
=207% Increase in cooler volume

Total intercooler system numbers (One side cooler plus one center cooler):
HX System Stock: 34.5oz (1,020ml)
HX System WXM: 87.5oz (2,588ml)
Volume Increase: 53oz (1,567ml)
=154% Increase in cooler volume





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Old 03-03-2017, 09:54 AM   #10
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Great stuff Ben! When are you or Whipple going to make one for the LSA?

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LOL Sally you can fit one now if you wanna cut the cowl
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I have two allocations left if you want one, the first 50 are gone and no more till summer.



This blower compresses 64% more air per revolution, so more power with less boost. Stock blower makes about 10-11psi, this at 11psi made nearly 100whp more!

This blower is all you'd need to walk a stock Hellcat! Do a cat delete and pulley down and you're walking a pullied Hellcat! I can't wait till my A10 gets here... I have one waiting for it LOL

You 1/4 mile guys are nuts. I love watching you push the limits of HP. Who else buys a Gen 6 ZL1 and says "It's pretty good but underpowered LOL"
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Old 03-03-2017, 10:37 AM   #12
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Very Nice... ZL1 has one more that sits horizontal under the front.

Awesome setup and 400% recovery is unreal...
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You 1/4 mile guys are nuts. I love watching you push the limits of HP. Who else buys a Gen 6 ZL1 and says "It's pretty good but underpowered LOL"
Yes, we are . It's an incurable disease!
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:07 AM   #14
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[QUOTE=WEAPON-X;9590537]We've been working with Whipple on some little things this week as we installed the first unit on a CTS V gen 3 which shares the same engine as the beloved ZL1. I have to say this thing looks right at home in the engine bay of the LT4! It really fills up the space between the heads.

We're still in the testing process, but the very fist pull with this wagon wheel pulley on it laid down over 600whp at 10psi without any timing in it at all. We have 3 smaller pulleys to try and although the blower design is a little different, we made 750whp on our Mustang dyno at 14psi on a 17 Escalade with our ported LT4 heads and supporting mods.

So bolting on the Whipple with 10lbs of boost pulley was 600rwhp ? The stock SC @ 10lbs puts approx 560rwhp so only netting 40-50 hp with the Whipple @ 10lbs ? Interesting

BTW nice heat exchangers I think I may need a set in the future for my CTSV
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