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Old 07-15-2014, 06:39 PM   #15
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yeah...black with white swirls would look much better.
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Old 07-15-2014, 07:04 PM   #16
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yeah I thought same thing! the shape Plus wheels brakes etc.. love the Buick grill lol
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Old 07-15-2014, 09:48 PM   #17
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Again, there is NO "either-or" with Alpha. ATS has a 109" WB, CTS is 114.8". ATS sedan is 183" OL, CTS is 194".

Expect Camaro to be within these parameters. And they'll ALL be based on "Alpha".

From what little you can detect from the 'Ring video, the ATS-V "sounds" like a TT-V6, which would be market-correct against BMW etc. All reports point to the LT4 for the CTS-V.
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Old 07-15-2014, 10:15 PM   #18
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I hope and pray, having sat in an ATS coupe, that the Camaro is not this small.

If it is, watch how long it takes before the first "how come my Camaro is the same size as a Cruze" threads is started.
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Old 07-15-2014, 10:43 PM   #19
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I hope and pray, having sat in an ATS coupe, that the Camaro is not this small.

If it is, watch how long it takes before the first "how come my Camaro is the same size as a Cruze" threads is started.
Thank you. I don't mind it losing weight but not at the sake of feeling cramped inside. I love the roominess of my 5th gen
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Old 07-15-2014, 11:21 PM   #20
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Cruze is actually pretty roomy inside.
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Old 07-16-2014, 12:18 AM   #21
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Wheels look ZL1 like but are not the same. Also I believed I read they're 19 inch wheels.
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Old 07-16-2014, 05:44 AM   #22
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I was under the impression the Camaro will be on the CTS long wheel base, which is about 2.3" longer than the current Camaro wheelbase, but over all length will remain about the same.

I don't think there's really any plans to shrink the car, but it should shed some weight for sure.
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Old 07-16-2014, 06:42 AM   #23
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yes oddly enough the cruze is a pretty roomy car...
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Old 07-16-2014, 07:30 AM   #24
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I was under the impression the Camaro will be on the CTS long wheel base, which is about 2.3" longer than the current Camaro wheelbase, but over all length will remain about the same.

I don't think there's really any plans to shrink the car, but it should shed some weight for sure.
That is one of the rumors. The only real official information on the sixth gen is where it will be built and the model year it is supposed to start production.
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Old 07-16-2014, 12:00 PM   #25
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Those look like LG ZR28 wheels in 19".
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Old 07-16-2014, 12:18 PM   #26
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Again, there is NO "either-or" with Alpha. ATS has a 109" WB, CTS is 114.8". ATS sedan is 183" OL, CTS is 194".

Expect Camaro to be within these parameters. And they'll ALL be based on "Alpha".
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Yes, Alpha is GMs small and midsized front engine rear or AWD platform. ATS was first followed by the CTS with different wheelbases.

A better guess for the above pic is ATS-V over Gen6 Camaro in disguise, or they could be doing testing on components for both vehicles at the same time
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Old 07-17-2014, 10:46 PM   #27
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Cant wait till this spanks the M3 and M4
That wont happen, I think; the new M3 is around 450rehp stock. The LT1 is not even close to that. A tuned M3 only did 500rwhp. Numbers need to be confirmed officially though.
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Old 07-19-2014, 04:02 AM   #28
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That wont happen, I think; the new M3 is around 450rehp stock. The LT1 is not even close to that. A tuned M3 only did 500rwhp. Numbers need to be confirmed officially though.
Not even close? You realize the lt1 makes more then 450hp don't you? Now I know that its not gonna be used in the ats-v but it does make great power. Also are you saying a m3 goes from 450 crank HP to over 500 at the tires with just a tune?
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