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Old 06-22-2014, 10:40 AM   #1
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Unconfirmed 6th Gen 2016 Camaro Engine Lineup

As always, subject to change and complete speculation until GM confirms.

From GMI:

2.0L Turbocharged I-4
3.6L LGX V6
6.2L LT1 V8
6.2L Supercharged LT4 V8

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...ine-up-170233/
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Old 06-22-2014, 10:48 AM   #2
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:02 AM   #3
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Thanks Fen! I love new info on the 6th gen, its like opening Christmas presents.
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:18 AM   #4
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Wow, that took a lot of brain power to guess. LOL

There aren't any other engines to pick from unless you want to add a diesel and the wonderful 1.4T from the Cruze.

Likely LT4 goes in the CTS-V anyway so that isn't even a stretch.
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:22 AM   #5
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Disappointed to see I-4 on the list but supercharged LT4 more than makes up for it.
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:27 AM   #6
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excellent selection of power. since the v6 is number one seller in the Camaro, I can't help but think the 4 banging turbo will expand sales even further.. now give me magnetic ride in v6 and I'm buying again..
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:39 AM   #7
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...and I suspect an unconfirmed n/a "between LT1 and LT4, great for GS - Z/28" engine TBA by MY '17...
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:50 AM   #8
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Excellent, now hopefully they deliver in the looks department
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no surprises here. thanks for the info!
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Old 06-22-2014, 12:53 PM   #10
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i just wonder what they're going to cost
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Old 06-22-2014, 01:11 PM   #11
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Wish they would turbo the 6 and not a 4. Money always talks though.
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Old 06-22-2014, 01:50 PM   #12
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I see that the turbo 4 is listed before the V6. Is that on purpose? I guess they'll be taking a different approach than Ford if the 4 is the cheaper and most likely lower powered choice. Also I would be surprised to see the LT4 available in the first model year.
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What is the reason behind the turbo 4? If it's because of the Mustang then GM needs to stop copying everyone and start being a leader. I don't see a huge tuner market for Camaros and frankly I don't revel in seeing Camaro's/Mustangs reverting back to the iron duke days.
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Old 06-22-2014, 02:30 PM   #14
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I see that the turbo 4 is listed before the V6. Is that on purpose? I guess they'll be taking a different approach than Ford if the 4 is the cheaper and most likely lower powered choice.
So it would appear.
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So it would appear.
I wonder how that would work comparison wise? I just can't see magazines testing a 4 cylinder Mustang vs a V6 Camaro and a 4 cylinder Camaro vs a V6 Mustang. It will be interesting for sure to see how this will play out. I wouldn't go for a 4 cylinder Camaro but I don't have a problem with it entering the lineup. I would like to see them go more for fuel economy with that model.
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...and I suspect an unconfirmed n/a "between LT1 and LT4, great for GS - Z/28" engine TBA by MY '17...
I would be surprised to see another LTx engine let alone one developed specifically for the Camaro.



That's exactly what I expected to see for the engine line up. Let's hope they don't gut the power for the Camaro LT4.
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That would be odd considering Al Oppenheiser said himself there would be no 4 cylinder.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=329009
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That would be odd considering Al Oppenheiser said himself there would be no 4 cylinder.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=329009
Al Oppenheiser said he doesn't want a 4 cylinder.

What Al wants and what GM orders him to do are two different things.
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Old 06-22-2014, 05:00 PM   #19
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Sounds perfectly reasonable considering the current engine hierarchy. The only question is how much will GM detune the LT4 for the high end Camaro model? If indeed the 6th Gen Camaro weighs in the 3600 lb range as speculated (which isn't too far off the C7 ZO6), then I would think the engine will be detuned to keep a safe distance from the ZO6.
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That would be odd considering Al Oppenheiser said himself there would be no 4 cylinder.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=329009
That article has been misquoted many times. All he said was he would fight for every horsepower and cylinder he can. Not sure how that ended being taken as there would be no four cylinder.
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Looks like this means no Z/28 in 2016.

Same engine lineup as we have now except the LS7 is now a 4 banger
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Looks like this means no Z/28 in 2016.

Same engine lineup as we have now except the LS7 is now a 4 banger
Just because there is nothing between the LT1 and LT4 doesn't mean there couldn't be in the future.
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The person that posted up the information on the GMI website appears to be the same individual that posted up the thread on there "confirming" the LGX V6 in the 6th gen Camaro.

In case anyone wants to see more on that, see this thread: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=362124

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What is the reason behind the turbo 4? If it's because of the Mustang then GM needs to stop copying everyone and start being a leader. I don't see a huge tuner market for Camaros and frankly I don't revel in seeing Camaro's/Mustangs reverting back to the iron duke days.
Its not copying...its a different approach than Ford. Ford is offering the V6 as the base engine, and the 2.3 as an option. Its clear that Ford is wanting to phase out the V6, as many options available on the 2.3 are not available on the V6, thus it will probably be the weakest seller over time, and give Ford a reason to axe it.

GM will likely offer the 2.0 as the base engine, unless they ramp up the power in it more than it has in other applications. So I see one of two things happening here: 1) 2.0 turbo as base, and V6 as option for slight price bump, but that's only if the 2.0 doesn't get a power bump. 2) Otherwise bump the 2.0 power a bit, and offer it for the same price as the V6, giving the buyers two good options based on their own preference. Frankly I'd love this approach.

The V6 will likely offer more power, and efficiency than the current LFX, which is already doing well in both areas. It will compete well with Ford's 2.3 stock to stock.

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I wonder how that would work comparison wise? I just can't see magazines testing a 4 cylinder Mustang vs a V6 Camaro and a 4 cylinder Camaro vs a V6 Mustang. It will be interesting for sure to see how this will play out. I wouldn't go for a 4 cylinder Camaro but I don't have a problem with it entering the lineup. I would like to see them go more for fuel economy with that model.
Who cares? I say mix it up. Give us options! It was Fords decision to change up the mix and make the 4 cylinder the option, while GM may take a more traditional approach. I say get both 4 cylinders, and both V6s and take em all out and do one big comparison. Would be awesome.

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Al Oppenheiser said he doesn't want a 4 cylinder.

What Al wants and what GM orders him to do are two different things.
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I think this quote from that thread was pretty cool...at least I thought it was lol

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You don't know how right you are (Maybe you do!). I know for a fact that there are sixth gen "Camaros" driving around the U.S. and Australia under the skin of other Alpha vehicles... But I don't know for sure if those vehicles are CTS or ATS models (or both?)... But true "Camaro" bodies will start to be seen sooner rather than later, perhaps by the end of summer
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I would not scoff too loudly at a turbo 4. GM makes a hellavu 4 cyl engine. The turbo version has 260ftlb torque at 1700 rpm. Perhaps more torque down low than many of their V8's.

If the '16 Camaro makes 36xx lb curb or lower, the turbo 4 will outperform the existing V6, especially when it comes to mileage.

To put things in perspective, if the 6.2L Supercharged engine could make Cadillac Turbo Four power per ci, it would have 837HP at 5500rpm, and 806ftlb of torque at 1700 rpm.

GM currently does not make either a diesel or gas transmission that could handle that reliably.
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