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Old 02-19-2014, 04:27 PM   #18
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Sad.
Chevy needs to put the Gen5 to rest and release the world class Alpha Camaro ASAP.
The Alpha Camaro is going to be a game changer.

But, I would never buy a Gen5 over the redesigned 2015 Mustang with IRS and a much lower curb weight.......
and I HATE F*rd with a passion.
If you can get a brand new car designed, engineered, validated, certified, and produced in less than 12 months, be my guest and try.
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Old 02-19-2014, 05:57 PM   #19
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maybe they will refresh the interior?? add a push start button and keyless entry with some extra features?
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Old 02-19-2014, 06:24 PM   #20
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My GM dealer told me just today that it will be in 2016...
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Old 02-19-2014, 06:52 PM   #21
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maybe they will refresh the interior?? add a push start button and keyless entry with some extra features?
Doubt it.

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My GM dealer told me just today that it will be in 2016...
2016 model year.
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Old 02-19-2014, 07:10 PM   #22
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My wife thinks the new mustang looks great she said she could picture her self or some her girlfriends driving it.
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Old 02-19-2014, 07:32 PM   #23
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The redesign will not be in '15 or else we would be previewing it right now along with Mustang. My wager is that the 5th gen will run its course in '15, maybe as an abbreviated production year, and we will see the 6th gen Camaro design in the auto shows and sneak previews. Chevy may also start taking orders on the 6th gen by April or May of '15 for MY 2016; At least as how I see it.
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Old 02-19-2014, 08:40 PM   #24
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Look at the release of the 2015 ATS Coupe as a harbinger of the 2016 Camaro. GM will want to shake out the Coupe's build in the factory. Smooth out wrinkles in production.
Economies of scale could indicate the Camaro will be right on its heels.

2015 Mustang wheelbase is 107.1", 3500 lbs. Adding the IRS cancelled all weight loss elsewhere. Nearly a net zero pounds change from the 2014. Wheelbase did not change.
Platform is fundamentally unchanged. Contrary to Ford intentional disinformation, for 2005, the Mustang was NOT based on the DEW/LS/Thunderbird/Jaguar platform and was designed from scratch. There was not enough structural support for the larger V8 blocks, superchargers, et al. Which is why you never saw a 4.6 liter in an LS Lincoln. The investment in the Mustang platform still needs to be milked. GM has known this for some time. So take that as a target to meet or BEAT.

The pictures of the back seat of the ATS Coupe remind me of my 2006 Mustang GT.
The ATS wheelbase is 109.3...size often is an indicator of weight. Do not expect the Camaro to be larger than that. The Camaro needs to lose 250 lbs just to break even with the Mustang as it was/is an excellent design. The ATS Coupe is the direction...and a VERY good one for Camaro.
The only concern would be the space available for the larger motors. BUT...I've seen V-8s in VEGAs and Monzas. (Not Las Vegas).
Current CTS Coupe is 500lbs over a reasonable target weight...and it is being carried over (so I hear)...it is already 250 over the average Camaro. There is a next-gen CTS SEDAN is coming, but the ATS-Camaro will come first. (if I read everything right.)

Soooooo.....the ATS Coupe is a VERY CONSERVATIVE car to not scare customers away, and the Camaro will likely be "Extroverted". Let us hope and pray it doesn't have the Mustang's new nose, cheese-slicer-carved back end, and 7 lines just to define the hood.
Busy and ugly we don't want. Elegant, Definitive, Recognizable, Extroverted should be the goals.

Mustang sales went up in January after people saw the busy-ugly new one.
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Old 02-20-2014, 01:45 AM   #25
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Look at the release of the 2015 ATS Coupe as a harbinger of the 2016 Camaro. GM will want to shake out the Coupe's build in the factory. Smooth out wrinkles in production.
Economies of scale could indicate the Camaro will be right on its heels.

2015 Mustang wheelbase is 107.1", 3500 lbs. Adding the IRS cancelled all weight loss elsewhere. Nearly a net zero pounds change from the 2014. Wheelbase did not change.
Platform is fundamentally unchanged. Contrary to Ford intentional disinformation, for 2005, the Mustang was NOT based on the DEW/LS/Thunderbird/Jaguar platform and was designed from scratch. There was not enough structural support for the larger V8 blocks, superchargers, et al. Which is why you never saw a 4.6 liter in an LS Lincoln. The investment in the Mustang platform still needs to be milked. GM has known this for some time. So take that as a target to meet or BEAT.

The pictures of the back seat of the ATS Coupe remind me of my 2006 Mustang GT.
The ATS wheelbase is 109.3...size often is an indicator of weight. Do not expect the Camaro to be larger than that. The Camaro needs to lose 250 lbs just to break even with the Mustang as it was/is an excellent design. The ATS Coupe is the direction...and a VERY good one for Camaro.
The only concern would be the space available for the larger motors. BUT...I've seen V-8s in VEGAs and Monzas. (Not Las Vegas).
Current CTS Coupe is 500lbs over a reasonable target weight...and it is being carried over (so I hear)...it is already 250 over the average Camaro. There is a next-gen CTS SEDAN is coming, but the ATS-Camaro will come first. (if I read everything right.)

Soooooo.....the ATS Coupe is a VERY CONSERVATIVE car to not scare customers away, and the Camaro will likely be "Extroverted". Let us hope and pray it doesn't have the Mustang's new nose, cheese-slicer-carved back end, and 7 lines just to define the hood.
Busy and ugly we don't want. Elegant, Definitive, Recognizable, Extroverted should be the goals.

Mustang sales went up in January after people saw the busy-ugly new one.
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Old 02-20-2014, 10:01 AM   #26
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2015 Model Camaro ordering info :
2015 Model Order Banks Open : 17 Apr 2014
2015 Start of Production is : 16 Jun 2014

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Old 02-20-2014, 10:06 AM   #27
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I predict the 6th gen will make its first appearance at the 2016 NAIAS,but obviously spy photos will be the first thing you see.I'm sure that will start happening in the next year as the car has to be tested and we'll get an idea of what is coming.
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:28 PM   #28
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I predict the 6th gen will make its first appearance at the 2016 NAIAS,but obviously spy photos will be the first thing you see.I'm sure that will start happening in the next year as the car has to be tested and we'll get an idea of what is coming.
I'd hope the damn thing would be in production by the 2016 NAIAS or that's going to be an abbreviated model year.
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Old 02-20-2014, 01:13 PM   #29
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I predict the 6th gen will make its first appearance at the 2016 NAIAS,but obviously spy photos will be the first thing you see.I'm sure that will start happening in the next year as the car has to be tested and we'll get an idea of what is coming.
With all due respect, if the 6th generation Camaro doesn't make its first appearance until NAIAS 2016, then the car would be coming out for the 2017 Model Year... and that's just plain crazy. That would mean that the 2016 car would still be a 5th gen.
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Old 02-20-2014, 01:30 PM   #30
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Current CTS Coupe is 500lbs over a reasonable target weight...and it is being carried over (so I hear)...it is already 250 over the average Camaro. There is a next-gen CTS SEDAN is coming, but the ATS-Camaro will come first. (if I read everything right.)...
If your talking about the new gen CTS, its weight for the base car is actually about the same, or slightly LESS than a base Camaro V6 (about 3,650 lbs for the base CTS). I'm sure the weight climbs quite a bit as trim level and engine options go up, putting it at around the same weight as a Camaro SS.

That said...I think the next gen Camaro SS target weight should be right around 3,600 - 3,650 lbs or less.
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I'd hope the damn thing would be in production by the 2016 NAIAS or that's going to be an abbreviated model year.
When do you expect the 6th gen to be revealed?
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Old 02-20-2014, 02:49 PM   #32
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It's hard to say. It's a little odd that we haven't seen a mule or anything yet.

Once the IVERs are out, it'll be about a year to reveal.
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Old 02-20-2014, 03:09 PM   #33
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They can take all the time they want. i still need to pay off my car more so i can trade it in without negative equity if the 6th gen looks worthy enough to buy.
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When do you expect the 6th gen to be revealed?
Dec. 2014? Will be a 2016 and will not distribute out until fall 2015.
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