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Old 02-20-2014, 09:01 AM   #26
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Old 02-20-2014, 09:06 AM   #27
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I predict the 6th gen will make its first appearance at the 2016 NAIAS,but obviously spy photos will be the first thing you see.I'm sure that will start happening in the next year as the car has to be tested and we'll get an idea of what is coming.
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I predict the 6th gen will make its first appearance at the 2016 NAIAS,but obviously spy photos will be the first thing you see.I'm sure that will start happening in the next year as the car has to be tested and we'll get an idea of what is coming.
I'd hope the damn thing would be in production by the 2016 NAIAS or that's going to be an abbreviated model year.
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:13 PM   #29
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I predict the 6th gen will make its first appearance at the 2016 NAIAS,but obviously spy photos will be the first thing you see.I'm sure that will start happening in the next year as the car has to be tested and we'll get an idea of what is coming.
With all due respect, if the 6th generation Camaro doesn't make its first appearance until NAIAS 2016, then the car would be coming out for the 2017 Model Year... and that's just plain crazy. That would mean that the 2016 car would still be a 5th gen.
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Current CTS Coupe is 500lbs over a reasonable target weight...and it is being carried over (so I hear)...it is already 250 over the average Camaro. There is a next-gen CTS SEDAN is coming, but the ATS-Camaro will come first. (if I read everything right.)...
If your talking about the new gen CTS, its weight for the base car is actually about the same, or slightly LESS than a base Camaro V6 (about 3,650 lbs for the base CTS). I'm sure the weight climbs quite a bit as trim level and engine options go up, putting it at around the same weight as a Camaro SS.

That said...I think the next gen Camaro SS target weight should be right around 3,600 - 3,650 lbs or less.
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I'd hope the damn thing would be in production by the 2016 NAIAS or that's going to be an abbreviated model year.
When do you expect the 6th gen to be revealed?
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Old 02-20-2014, 01:49 PM   #32
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It's hard to say. It's a little odd that we haven't seen a mule or anything yet.

Once the IVERs are out, it'll be about a year to reveal.
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Old 02-20-2014, 02:09 PM   #33
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They can take all the time they want. i still need to pay off my car more so i can trade it in without negative equity if the 6th gen looks worthy enough to buy.
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Old 02-20-2014, 02:37 PM   #34
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When do you expect the 6th gen to be revealed?
Dec. 2014? Will be a 2016 and will not distribute out until fall 2015.
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Old 02-20-2014, 02:50 PM   #35
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It's hard to say. It's a little odd that we haven't seen a mule or anything yet.

Once the IVERs are out, it'll be about a year to reveal.
Yeah, I'm surprised we havent seen any possible 6th gen mules yet.
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Dec. 2014? Will be a 2016 and will not distribute out until fall 2015.
When ever it is, I hope it's soon.
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Looking at it more, it probably wont be revealed until summer of 2015 at SEMA or some show. It'll be released 2016 as a 2017. My 3 reasons being; #1: 50th anniversary #2: Ford introduces 6th gen mustang as 50th anniversary (2015) #3: Chevy will want to see Fords gadgets, ect to have a leg up on the mustang when introduced as the ultimate pony car.
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Old 02-20-2014, 04:49 PM   #38
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It's hard to say. It's a little odd that we haven't seen a mule or anything yet.

Once the IVERs are out, it'll be about a year to reveal.
They could be farther along than we think and are just doing a really good job of hiding it like they did the Z/28. We have somewhat of an idea of the powertrains, so I'm really interested in the design. It will have to be one heck of a looker for me to get one to go with my 1LE. My 1LE already performs way past my expectations so the exterior will be a big factor for me. I'm pulling for them and I have no reason to think they won't nail it.
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Could they be hiding early test mules for the Camaro and ATS V platforms under an ATS Coupe skin?
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Old 02-20-2014, 05:51 PM   #40
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It's hard to say. It's a little odd that we haven't seen a mule or anything yet.

Once the IVERs are out, it'll be about a year to reveal.
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They could be farther along than we think and are just doing a really good job of hiding it like they did the Z/28. We have somewhat of an idea of the powertrains, so I'm really interested in the design. It will have to be one heck of a looker for me to get one to go with my 1LE. My 1LE already performs way past my expectations so the exterior will be a big factor for me. I'm pulling for them and I have no reason to think they won't nail it.
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Could they be hiding early test mules for the Camaro and ATS V platforms under an ATS Coupe skin?
I'm guessing they're still working on the exterior design. I know they were looking at the concept threads I had created and I'm sure they were paying very close attention to the reactions and comments to the various design concepts; not only in my threads but the others as well. Interestingly enough I had actually recommended they develop the chassis under an ATS skin to completely hide the exterior design, and keep the exterior design a VERY guarded secret. They may actually be doing that. I hope so... that's the smart thing to do so you don't paralyze yourself by second-guessing reactions to a not-finished product.

But one thing I'm certain they took away from viewing my concept threads is what an unbelievable pain in the butt the Camaro crowd is to design for. They want something new, yet want it to look like something old. If you give them a new old style design then they complain it looks dated and want something new. If it's too "new", then they complain it doesn't look like a Camaro. The design team got stung by the reaction to the 2014 refresh; they're probably being extremely hard on themselves about making the 6th gen be a winner style-wise. I can't even imagine the stress they must be under right now. The exterior design is so critical with the Camaro crowd it will literally make or break the car's sales future regardless of what's underneath the skin. The design team has my heartfelt sympathies and support for the excruciatingly difficult task they have before them.

No matter what they come up with there's going to be people who hate it; I just hope there are enough who like it to keep the Camaro alive.
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I was looking when orders for the 2015 Camaro start on http://www.edmunds.com/model-year-changes/2015/ and i noticed it says it will be redesigned. Keeping in mind this is a prediction makes me wonder what could change.

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Camaro - Mid 2014 - Redesign
Very doubtful the car will be redesigned so soon. We're not talking about a Mustang, after all.

All kidding aside - while the changes to the design the Camaro Team made probably aren't breaking the bank - they wouldn't have done it for just a 1 year run.

I believe Edmunds us just being optimistic.
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Looking at it more, it probably wont be revealed until summer of 2015 at SEMA or some show. It'll be released 2016 as a 2017. My 3 reasons being; #1: 50th anniversary #2: Ford introduces 6th gen mustang as 50th anniversary (2015) #3: Chevy will want to see Fords gadgets, ect to have a leg up on the mustang when introduced as the ultimate pony car.
That would mean that there would not be a 2016 MY. The plant that produces the Camaro now stops production of it in 2015.
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Theres no way they would do a 2015 redesign..........6th gen is close! I think we will see it unveiled at the Detroit auto show. I also think that the design is done and they have parts being made now (preproduction) I really do hope to do a big reveal like they did for mustang.
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Theres no way they would do a 2015 redesign..........6th gen is close! I think we will see it unveiled at the Detroit auto show. I also think that the design is done and they have parts being made now (preproduction) I really do hope to do a big reveal like they did for mustang.
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That said...I think the next gen Camaro SS target weight should be right around 3,600 - 3,650 lbs or less.
It will be because it is based on the ATS chassis which starts at 3,400lbs with the I-4 engine. As for the gen 6 it is pretty well known although not officially to be released in 2015 as a 2016 MY. We should see sneak peaks at the end of this year and I will put money on NIAS 2015 for the official release. And don't count on any change to 2015 to be shocking.
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It will be because it is based on the ATS chassis which starts at 3,400lbs with the I-4 engine. As for the gen 6 it is pretty well known although not officially to be released in 2015 as a 2016 MY. We should see sneak peaks at the end of this year and I will put money on NIAS 2015 for the official release. And don't count on any change to 2015 to be shocking.
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Old 02-21-2014, 11:40 AM   #47
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Look at the release of the 2015 ATS Coupe as a harbinger of the 2016 Camaro. GM will want to shake out the Coupe's build in the factory. Smooth out wrinkles in production.
Economies of scale could indicate the Camaro will be right on its heels.

2015 Mustang wheelbase is 107.1", 3500 lbs. Adding the IRS cancelled all weight loss elsewhere. Nearly a net zero pounds change from the 2014. Wheelbase did not change.
Platform is fundamentally unchanged. Contrary to Ford intentional disinformation, for 2005, the Mustang was NOT based on the DEW/LS/Thunderbird/Jaguar platform and was designed from scratch. There was not enough structural support for the larger V8 blocks, superchargers, et al. Which is why you never saw a 4.6 liter in an LS Lincoln. The investment in the Mustang platform still needs to be milked. GM has known this for some time. So take that as a target to meet or BEAT.

The pictures of the back seat of the ATS Coupe remind me of my 2006 Mustang GT.
The ATS wheelbase is 109.3...size often is an indicator of weight. Do not expect the Camaro to be larger than that. The Camaro needs to lose 250 lbs just to break even with the Mustang as it was/is an excellent design. The ATS Coupe is the direction...and a VERY good one for Camaro.
The only concern would be the space available for the larger motors. BUT...I've seen V-8s in VEGAs and Monzas. (Not Las Vegas).
Current CTS Coupe is 500lbs over a reasonable target weight...and it is being carried over (so I hear)...it is already 250 over the average Camaro. There is a next-gen CTS SEDAN is coming, but the ATS-Camaro will come first. (if I read everything right.)

Soooooo.....the ATS Coupe is a VERY CONSERVATIVE car to not scare customers away, and the Camaro will likely be "Extroverted". Let us hope and pray it doesn't have the Mustang's new nose, cheese-slicer-carved back end, and 7 lines just to define the hood.
Busy and ugly we don't want. Elegant, Definitive, Recognizable, Extroverted should be the goals.

Mustang sales went up in January after people saw the busy-ugly new one.
The next gen CTS sedan has already hit the streets; did you mean coupe?
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:33 PM   #48
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If the cars selling why would they make another gen? It seems like the last gen of vettes stuck around forever (and felt dated )
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That would mean that there would not be a 2016 MY. The plant that produces the Camaro now stops production of it in 2015.
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On December 19, 2012 GM announced that the Camaro would return to being made in America, as production of the Camaro would be shifted to the Lansing Grand River Assembly Plant in Michigan, citing "lower capital investment and improved production efficiencies" as "key factors" in the move.[22] This move is expected to start in late 2015 or early 2016.[23]

So I guess we'll see spy pics in dec/jan 2015? Should be earlier. Yet no true concept has come out yet. I'd have to say this yr if we don't see actual pics of either spy or a true concept it won't be a 2016.

The camaro concept revealed itself in 06, production began in 09. Of course that's bringing back a car and not just a new design. December we should have news on it.
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Agreed. It is amongst us and we have not seen hide nor hide. Loose lips sink ships <and end careers>. Mid to end of this year spy shots, with an announcement at NAIS.
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