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Old 02-05-2014, 12:05 AM   #1
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2020 Camaro Concept 4

I've decided to move this one to a new thread since the old thread had versions that weren't particularly "muscle". This one definitely is a muscle car. It incorporates elements from I think all of my previous concepts. Right now I'm focusing on overall shape and look; I haven't put any effort into lighting effects yet. I haven't even done a rear side marker light because I haven't come up with an idea I like yet.

This concept is running 18" wheels with 275 wide tires so the overall size of the car is actually smaller than the current Camaro even though it may not look like it. Going with the smaller tires enabled me to lower the fender line height and open up the side window height a bit for better driver visibility. This version has a shorter wheelbase too but that's hard to tell because I balanced all the elements to the smaller wheels so proportionally it looks "right". This car would be lower, shorter and lighter than the current 5th Gen.

The front is interesting. I know it kinda sorta has a Vette flavor to it but I chose it to help lower the drag coefficient in the front for better gas mileage. However this shape would also do quite well I think on the track. The other thing about this front (to me) is it has that definite GM family look to it.

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Old 02-05-2014, 12:59 AM   #2
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Whatever you're smoking, can I have some?

Looks way too much like a Vette from the side, and too much like a 3000 GT from the front…

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Old 02-05-2014, 01:08 AM   #3
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Whatever you're smoking, can I have some?

Looks way too much like a Vette from the side, and too much like a 3000 GT from the front…

lol I should have put my normal disclaimer; I don't care what else it looks like. Does it look good?
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Old 02-05-2014, 01:19 AM   #4
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In my opinion, no. A Camaro shouldn't look like a Corvette, or a Mitsubishi 3000 GT. I mean, it's not a slight resemblance. It looks EXACTLY like a Corvette...
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Old 02-05-2014, 01:25 AM   #5
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The higher roofline aids in visibility but kills the design IMO.
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Old 02-05-2014, 03:09 AM   #6
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In my opinion, no. A Camaro shouldn't look like a Corvette, or a Mitsubishi 3000 GT. I mean, it's not a slight resemblance. It looks EXACTLY like a Corvette...
It doesn't really look at all like a 3000 GT; if anyone really thinks it does then I'm not the one smoking anything. If anything, it has some similarities to the Cadillac Cien.
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I figured the resemblance to a vette would freak out the F-body crowd but if people want something different for the Camaro, the only way to find that is to try something different. The exploration continues.

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The higher roofline aids in visibility but kills the design IMO.
Aahh. Yeah that's the challenge. If I lowered the roofline then it really would look just like a Vette and that would also kill it as a 4 seater too.

Here are some revisions where I raised the front profile up quite a bit. Hopefully that improves the feel of the design with regards to the roofline height.

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Just going to say what everyone else is thinking Doc - shut up and take my money!
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not something that makes me want to drive it..
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Old 02-05-2014, 09:54 AM   #9
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I've never posted in your threads but followed all of them. I like where this one is headed. Nice job!
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Old 02-05-2014, 01:11 PM   #10
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Just going to say what everyone else is thinking Doc - shut up and take my money!
And it's not even finished yet!!

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not something that makes me want to drive it..
Well.... when it's finished... you never know.

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I've never posted in your threads but followed all of them. I like where this one is headed. Nice job!
Thank you!

Here's the latest with a few changes. I moved the radiator exit cutout on the hood back a bit. Starting to experiment with some LED lighting on the top of the fender edges.

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So, your idea is basically a cheaper 2+2 Corvette? What??

Actually, that sounds like a great idea. I'd buy a car like that.
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lol I should have put my normal disclaimer; I don't care what else it looks like. Does it look good?
No offense, But thank GOD you are not a designer for GM!!!
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Old 02-05-2014, 03:34 PM   #13
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I'm liking what I see so far. Love the trunk opening and the greater visibility. The roof line does look a bit odd, but I see what you are saying about lowering it. Keep going!
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Old 02-05-2014, 03:35 PM   #14
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So, your idea is basically a cheaper 2+2 Corvette? What??

Actually, that sounds like a great idea. I'd buy a car like that.
oh hell yeahhh an entry level Corvette for $25k...
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Old 02-05-2014, 04:12 PM   #15
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So, your idea is basically a cheaper 2+2 Corvette? What??

Actually, that sounds like a great idea. I'd buy a car like that.
Well that could be a possibility. And yeah, it would sell.

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No offense, But thank GOD you are not a designer for GM!!!
No offense taken and I actually agree with you. Designing for some of the Camaro crowd is a total PITA. I don't envy the GM designers one little bit!

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I'm liking what I see so far. Love the trunk opening and the greater visibility. The roof line does look a bit odd, but I see what you are saying about lowering it. Keep going!
Thank you. I think once you sat in this car and realized how nice it is to be able to clearly see outward as a driver, you'd be fine with the roof line.

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oh hell yeahhh an entry level Corvette for $25k...
I wasn't actually thinking of it that way originally but now that it's being mentioned, I could see where that could be a selling point.
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looks like a 300zx and testarossa had an awkward baby
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:04 PM   #17
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Car designing is a lot like rock n roll. It can result in hours of fun, brings groups of people together out of interest in it, makes you want to see what happens next, frighten people you don't care about anyways, & make you famous after you're dead. Some of the best work produced can come at the very end of a very frustrating project. It can also all remind everybody of something else, as there is really nothing new under the sun, so they say.

That said, my main thoughts to the new design may be to try shortening the wheel base a little to give it more musclecar like proportions & compromise a little on the extra height of the roof for cosmetics .Raising the lower line of the front windshield just a little, & a little less curve should help the hood to appear longer. Also I'd mainly look into other design shapes on the front fascia to look more musclecar like, as I think this is the biggest area holding the design back.. When you start getting there, others will feel your designs more.
Just a few constructive criticism thoughts.I,ve recently done some design concepts on other forums, no easy task.
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