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Old 07-15-2014, 12:50 PM   #1
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Question 2016 ATS-V - Could this be the dimensions of the 6th Gen Camaro?

I just saw the spyshot pics posted on roadandtrack.com of new 2016 ATS-V. Is this the size/dimensions we should expect for the 6th Gen Camaro?


http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/futur...-shots#slide-1

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2016 Cadillac ATS-V Coupe drops body cladding for 'Ring run

The recipe for the 2016 Cadillac ATS-V Coupe is the same as the sedan: a 400+ hp twin-turbocharged 3.6-liter V6, beefy tires, a harder-core suspension, and big, fat flares. There's virtually no chance it will be anything less than awesome. Check out 6 pics













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Old 07-15-2014, 01:20 PM   #2
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Old 07-15-2014, 01:42 PM   #3
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Also, isn't the wheelbase on the coupe 1" wider than the sedan? I think that is kind of interesting.

I'd like to think we'd see the Camaro sized in between the ATS and the CTS, as I don't see why the car would need to be CTS sized (it needs to get smaller if anything!) but then again can the Camaro, with its long hood body style fit on the ATS chassis? I don't know what to think..

Problem is I don't know if GM would go through the added expensive of creating another version of Alpha for Camaro would they?....so it could be one or the other.

All I know is, the Camaro does NOT need to increase in size, and it NEEDs to lose a few hundred lbs if at all possible. Those who seem to be in the know say it is shrinking, so take that as you will.
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Old 07-15-2014, 01:48 PM   #4
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would have loved to see the twin turbo 6 in the new camaro
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Old 07-15-2014, 02:34 PM   #5
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I find it interesting that that ATS has ZL1 style wheels...
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Old 07-15-2014, 02:41 PM   #6
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Cant wait till this spanks the M3 and M4
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Old 07-15-2014, 02:44 PM   #7
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I find it interesting that that ATS has ZL1 style wheels...
I find it also very interesting that the calipers are disguised as well! Camaro Mule?
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I find it interesting that that ATS has ZL1 style wheels...
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I find it also very interesting that the calipers are disguised as well! Camaro Mule?
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:18 PM   #9
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Couple of reports, though conjecture at this point, are all saying TT V6 in the ATS-V.
Assuming this is true, and Camaro also goes on ATS wheelbase...no V8?
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:22 PM   #10
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pretty sure the new Camaro will get the LT1, at the very least.
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:31 PM   #11
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Couple of reports, though conjecture at this point, are all saying TT V6 in the ATS-V.
Assuming this is true, and Camaro also goes on ATS wheelbase...no V8?
The Alpha platform was designed to handle V8s. The CTS-V is more than likely going to have a forced induction V8.

There are rumors of an ATS-V+ getting a V8.
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pretty sure the new Camaro will get the LT1, at the very least.
one would hope, LT1 for SS, LT4 for ZL1...

I'm by no means an expert, but I assume - based on other threads here, there is no issue in putting an LT1 or LT4 on the ATS alpha.

The ATS-V size is growing on me - i thought it would be too small as i have loved the CTS-V for years now, but it is looking pretty mean even with all the camo.
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:43 PM   #13
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Old 07-15-2014, 05:31 PM   #14
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Not a fan of the color
yeah...black with white swirls would look much better.
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:39 PM   #15
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yeah...black with white swirls would look much better.
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Old 07-15-2014, 07:04 PM   #16
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yeah I thought same thing! the shape Plus wheels brakes etc.. love the Buick grill lol
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Old 07-15-2014, 09:48 PM   #17
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Again, there is NO "either-or" with Alpha. ATS has a 109" WB, CTS is 114.8". ATS sedan is 183" OL, CTS is 194".

Expect Camaro to be within these parameters. And they'll ALL be based on "Alpha".

From what little you can detect from the 'Ring video, the ATS-V "sounds" like a TT-V6, which would be market-correct against BMW etc. All reports point to the LT4 for the CTS-V.
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Old 07-15-2014, 10:15 PM   #18
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I hope and pray, having sat in an ATS coupe, that the Camaro is not this small.

If it is, watch how long it takes before the first "how come my Camaro is the same size as a Cruze" threads is started.
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Old 07-15-2014, 10:43 PM   #19
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I hope and pray, having sat in an ATS coupe, that the Camaro is not this small.

If it is, watch how long it takes before the first "how come my Camaro is the same size as a Cruze" threads is started.
Thank you. I don't mind it losing weight but not at the sake of feeling cramped inside. I love the roominess of my 5th gen
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Old 07-15-2014, 11:21 PM   #20
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Cruze is actually pretty roomy inside.
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Wheels look ZL1 like but are not the same. Also I believed I read they're 19 inch wheels.
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Old 07-16-2014, 05:44 AM   #22
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I was under the impression the Camaro will be on the CTS long wheel base, which is about 2.3" longer than the current Camaro wheelbase, but over all length will remain about the same.

I don't think there's really any plans to shrink the car, but it should shed some weight for sure.
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Old 07-16-2014, 06:42 AM   #23
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yes oddly enough the cruze is a pretty roomy car...
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I was under the impression the Camaro will be on the CTS long wheel base, which is about 2.3" longer than the current Camaro wheelbase, but over all length will remain about the same.

I don't think there's really any plans to shrink the car, but it should shed some weight for sure.
That is one of the rumors. The only real official information on the sixth gen is where it will be built and the model year it is supposed to start production.
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Old 07-16-2014, 12:00 PM   #25
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Those look like LG ZR28 wheels in 19".
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