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Old 01-10-2014, 11:02 PM   #103
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Going back to try different things , can you show us what this model would look if you pull the B pillar to be flash with the rear fender
Just to have that clean look at the intersection between the door( lock side ) / rear fender / B pillar
While keeping the front portion of the door exactly the way it is
This way you may gain some extra interior usable space
So if I understand you correctly, you want to see the fender go straight up to the roofline; like a Lamborghini...right? I can give that a try; might look too much like a Lambo though and not enough like what people would accept as a Camaro. We'll see.

Here's a couple of snapshots with a door handle on the side; just that little detail make a surprising difference in the way the side looks.

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Old 01-11-2014, 12:09 AM   #104
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This is exactly what I thought of when I saw it. Sorry, it has been done before so I vote NO.
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Old 01-11-2014, 01:17 AM   #105
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This is exactly what I thought of when I saw it. Sorry, it has been done before so I vote NO.
This is exactly the kind of post I've requested people not make. That pic has been posted before so sorry, I vote NO on your NO. READ THE THREAD BEFORE POSTING!!!
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Old 01-11-2014, 05:29 AM   #106
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Tried the Lambo look; way too much hassle. Requires a complete remodel of the entire back half of the car. Actually I feel the look from the front wheels back is pretty good; has the right feel to it. It's the front that's been bugging me. It was a good one, just not right for this particular car.

So I've completely reworked the front from the front wheels forward. It's still not quite right... not sure yet exactly what's bugging me but it feels like it's almost there. This feels much more like the right front for this car.

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Old 01-11-2014, 10:25 AM   #107
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IDK I'm not feeling that front end. It almost strikes me a little bulbous. It might just be the angle though.

The wrap around on the lights are reminiscent of an old Maserati from the 70's or early 80's maybe a Ferrari. Not sure it's old Italian though. I'm not saying that as a bad thing BTW...

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Old 01-11-2014, 12:11 PM   #108
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I had the side stuff there and people hated it so I took it out. I like what you did with the front headlights though... except the outside headlight would still have to be a turn-signal/running light.

Good input as always!


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Old 01-11-2014, 01:48 PM   #109
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Perhaps more of a Boxy front end like a ZL1? It goes inboard in front of the tires which is something that just popped out at me.
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Old 01-11-2014, 02:53 PM   #110
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I like the headlights ideas on the most recent one, but I think the whole console needs to be raised a few inches.... are you doing this work in a CAD program? Looks awesome!
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I see Sabb Sonnett in that.
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Old 01-11-2014, 04:59 PM   #112
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Ok been putting a LOT of work into various things; especially the front. I moved the cabin outward a couple of inches to give more interior room. Moved out the top fender lines slightly. Shortened the entire front. Lots of little things too numerous to mention.

I have 2 fronts I've been working with. The first is the one you've seen evolving so far. The second is something new and a bit more radical. It's going to take more work to get the second one to look "right" but I think it has potential.

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I like the headlights ideas on the most recent one, but I think the whole console needs to be raised a few inches.... are you doing this work in a CAD program? Looks awesome!
Console as in the front? See the revisions. I'm using a 3D program called CinemaXL by Maxon, and thanks!

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Ok I like the 1st front except use dual lights and keep the wrap around signals only they will be just at the corners. I did a quick paint so you could see what I am thinking. Your right about the color, I think this one makes the front stand out.
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Ok I like the 1st front except use dual lights and keep the wrap around signals only they will be just at the corners. I did a quick paint so you could see what I am thinking. Your right about the color, I think this one makes the front stand out.
This looks great except I don't think it would be legal. You have to have enough of the turn signal visible in the front so drivers at an angle can see it. Your mod doesn't allow for the turn signal to be viewed from the opposite angle. Looks good though.
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For some reason 2 and 3 make it look like the car is crying...
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This style front is proving to be a real mother bear to try and get it visually balanced. It LOOKS like it should be simple enough but it's proving otherwise. Here's the latest. The overall proportions of the whole car are starting to look about right.

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This looks great except I don't think it would be legal. You have to have enough of the turn signal visible in the front so drivers at an angle can see it. Your mod doesn't allow for the turn signal to be viewed from the opposite angle. Looks good though.

Thanks! My thought on this is that the headlights are somewhat inset and the turn signal wraps around and then in to the inset following the contour of the fender. When you are looking at it from the front opposite side it still is visible. Anyway that is for the engineers to figure out....

Another idea....
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