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Old 01-04-2014, 11:21 AM   #51
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Sorry Doc - I know you have a lot of time in this but I think this is a classic lesson on why it takes more than knowledge of how to make a 3D model to design a car that the public would want to buy. The proportions all over the car are just ... off.

In this picture it looks decent - it kind of reminds me of a C4 Corvette.


But then this picture everything just looks wrong? It hits me as someone took a picture of a car and use the "pinch" and "squeeze" in photoshop to screw up the proportions.


The front bumper proportions are just all wrong. The side scallop looks too much like a Dodge Charger but it's also awkwardly positioned IMO. Everything about the rear ... no me gusta. Honestly about the only thing that I really like is the overall size and the greenhouse design.
Wow, you're editing your post faster than I could respond lol. It's the software. The editor camera is a short range, short focus camera so it tends to have somewhat of a fisheye lens effect. That's the one I'm using when it's "inside" the garage I created. If I use a 105mm lens camera in an outside area the look changes to more like what it would really look like.

Does this look better? All I changed was the type of viewing camera.
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I don't know what you would call it. It looks like something from a brand new upstart car manufacturer. Maybe a kit sports car?
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Here's an example of how the "look" can change depending on the camera lens, distance and angle.

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Actually this kind of feedback helps me to know what kind of snapshots to take and post so people don't get the wrong impression of what this actually looks like. I'm working on it in multiple views in 3d so for me I don't see the distortion because I know what the shape actually is.

Good feedback!
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Old 01-04-2014, 11:46 AM   #54
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I don't know what you would call it. It looks like something from a brand new upstart car manufacturer. Maybe a kit sports car?
Right now it's just a shape; finishing details like body part seams and production lines, little details like that are missing. Think of it as a drawing, except in computer CGI 3d.
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Still doesn't look like a camaro and more resembles a video game wannabe corvette. the front fenders still resemble the third gen corvette, doesn't look like its big enough to have a decent size backseat and the rims look like fake Ferrari wheels. also with the newer renderings with the headlights moved to the insides of the turn signals it doesn't look right. The front bumper and grill area needs to be changed because it just looks like a poor attempt at copying the current grill and bumper. Also your rendering is a wire covered rendering so with the seats you have in there they wont fit in a real world production car because body structure and interior panel pieces will eat up a lot of interior room and once done the seats you have wont fit.
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Sorry, should fave been more clear. The side toward bowtie a little taller than the side toward the fender. Sort of following the contour of the grill more.

I think it looks pretty good considering it doesn't have the details yet.

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Old 01-04-2014, 02:41 PM   #57
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Still doesn't look like a camaro and more resembles a video game wannabe corvette. the front fenders still resemble the third gen corvette, doesn't look like its big enough to have a decent size backseat and the rims look like fake Ferrari wheels. also with the newer renderings with the headlights moved to the insides of the turn signals it doesn't look right. The front bumper and grill area needs to be changed because it just looks like a poor attempt at copying the current grill and bumper. Also your rendering is a wire covered rendering so with the seats you have in there they wont fit in a real world production car because body structure and interior panel pieces will eat up a lot of interior room and once done the seats you have wont fit.
I think you're looking at this as though it's a finished design ready for production; it isn't. Right now basically it IS a video game image. Yeah the front fenders are somewhat corvette-like...not sure why that's an issue. It's a +2 design so the back seat would be small. The wheels are not a focus right now; they're just there for reference. Use your imagination and imagine some other style of you don't like them. The front bumper and grill aren't supposed to be exactly like the current gen; they're stylized so as not to completely abandon the family identity. The front of a Camaro is one of the most recognizable and distinguishable characteristics of the car; I'm choosing to keep that. I haven't even started doing anything with the interior; I just stuck those seats in there to fill the space so it wouldn't look empty.

This isn't a finalized finished design; it's merely a concept at this point so just use your imagination to fill in details that aren't there yet.

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Sorry, should fave been more clear. The side toward bowtie a little taller than the side toward the fender. Sort of following the contour of the grill more.

I think it looks pretty good considering it doesn't have the details yet.

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Ok gotcha; that gives me a better idea of what to do. Thanks for the feedback.

Changes are being made in many ways and areas; some subtle, some not so subtle. Everyone's thoughts, ideas, perceptions help me to see what others are seeing that I don't so keep the feedback and comments coming!

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Sorry, should fave been more clear. The side toward bowtie a little taller than the side toward the fender. Sort of following the contour of the grill more.

I think it looks pretty good considering it doesn't have the details yet.

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So what do you like better... thicker or thinner?

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So what do you like better... thicker or thinner?

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Thicker. Looks good . It probably won't look the same as you tweak stuff, but right now I like it,

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Old 01-04-2014, 06:43 PM   #60
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The front end is too short unless it's supposed to be an MR setup. Not a bad design overall though. Not bad at all.
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Old 01-04-2014, 07:34 PM   #61
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Sorry but the car looks too much like a bastardized corvette and the front lights and grill look like, and sorry I cant think of a better term, a retarded camaro. If you are trying to make it a car with a back seat its not going to work because the corvette style back window slopes down too drastically and would only allow for someone that is less than 4' tall to fit back there with no where to put there legs. Sorry but your design doesn't and hasn't started to resemble anything that i would call a camaro. the front fenders and gills are corvette and the entire back and back glass also resemble a corvette. its looking more and more like a C3 corvette that was merged with a C5 corvette. I would look at the threads that you jumped in and called the designs comic bookish for inspiration because those at least to me had a camaro feel to them. Yes the proportions on those aren't right but with some tweaking i think they could be made to work. I am not saying your designs are bad I am just saying they are not Camaro or even Mustang or anything that would have a backseat for that matter. Your design is good but looks like its a 1990's design not a 2020 design. you are going to need a longer roof line to accommodate a back seat on your design if you are going to stick with it. JMHO
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Well it's actually the same wheelbase as the current Camaro; 112 inches. Front track is 60" rear track is 61". One of the design goals was to improve driver visibility which is why it's open and airy looking. Considering that CAFE requirements may force GM to put a 4 cylinder engine in the Camaro by that time, would a base model car that's a "fun little sports car" be all that bad? Maybe it's not the asphalt-ripping V8 monster we all know and love today but a lighter, more nimble and a blast to drive car is not exactly a disaster. I think a car like that would sell very well. This is the base model. Keep in mind I'm going to add some aero pieces which will definitely give it a more aggressive look, but again we have to accept that things are going to change. I'm designing with that reality in mind; trying to create a shape that's clean, efficient and looks fast. I don't want to wind up with a government regulation car that looks like a government regulation car; the thing that happened to cars in the 70's when all kinds of new regulations hit the auto makers.
I like the design, it just isn't as muscly as I'd expect for a muscle car. I think someone that's missing is a bit of a bump where the rear wheels are. The straight-line cue along the entire side of the car makes it look a little undefined; if it had just a hint of hip there and/or the top of the side indentation went up at the end around the tires I think it would make it seem a little more defined. I think there's some hip there though, and the render just isn't showing it properly. Also, I think that the rear window would look a little better if it wasn't *so* round, though it's probably more aerodynamic the way it is.
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In the famous words of Monty Python: "And now for something completely different!"

This idea popped into my mind with regards to the side styling and I went with it along with some other changes. I like the front half of this version better.

She has curves captain!

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(TO THE MODS: Since there isn't a category yet for concepts beyond 2016 I put this in here.)

I figure by now the 2016 Camaro is probably already designed. SOoo... just to start the new year off with a bang, here's my concept idea for 2020. However, now that I'm this far into it I realized it may actually work better as a Mustang. So I'd like to see what people think before I put anymore work into it.

Now before we get to the pictures I'll get the obvious reactions out of the way:

OMG IT LOOKS LIKE A VETTE!! A DODGE!! A FERRARI!! A MCLAREN!! A PINTO!! AN '83 BUICK!! MY TRUCK!!! Dude, WHAT were you THINKING!!???

Yes yes... I'm guilty. I deliberately designed it to look just like... a car...


Soooooo..... what do you guys (or gals) think? Does this style work as a Camaro or does it work better as a Mustang?

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With my previous 2016 concept I spent most of my time on the front and back and struggled with the side. This time I put most of my effort into the side and profile views. I took all the comments made in that previous concept thread and put them to use; more curves, more side detail, less square and boxy, etc. I also noticed a LOT of people really like the retro/heritage look so for this concept (at the moment anyways) I went with clearly identifiable styling elements for the front and back. I may change that up as I spend more time with it. This is a pure design with a fairly sophisticated styling on the sides. I didn't want anything frivolous but at the same time I didn't want it too plain.

This design concept seems to work better with bright colors I've noticed. The dark colors don't do so well on this shape.

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The Camaro front is pure retro/heritage but that too may change:

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I actually haven't put a lot of time into the front or back yet and there's detail and finishing work that needs to be done all over the place. This whole thing went from flat 2d drawing to what you see now in about 4 days; compare that to the 2 months it took me to get the 2016 concept together! Nothing like practice and knowing what you're doing!!

This design isn't "spacey" or gimmicky; it's intended to be a pure styling concept that's elegant, beautiful, classy and clean. If the consensus is this doesn't work as a Camaro, I'll make it a Mustang. I already have an idea for the front. If the majority like this as a Camaro, then too bad for the Ford crowd.

So whatchyall think?
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So doc, not to be rude but what brand and model are you trying to represent here again? I feel as though I've missed something even though I've been following your thread.
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In the famous words of Monty Python: "And now for something completely different!"

This idea popped into my mind with regards to the side styling and I went with it along with some other changes. I like the front half of this version better.

She has curves captain!

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Can you try to put the head lights ( rectangular shape ) on the far outside of the grill where you have the turn signal , and the turn signal from there and around the corner , this would eliminate the need for side markers
Thinking about the lights used on the Avalanche kind a shape
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This perspective looks great, the best of any as far as proportions. I think the front should have a totally new look while having a few subtle hints of the current retro styling. This color is best I think for showing the lines. Keep going, be as original as possible.
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I am really starting to like where your design is going. Hope you don't mind that i kinda butchered your picture but I made a copy and did the best i could with paint to show the things that i would change. I don't like the back glass so i added quarter windows and made the roof line longer and made the doors longer to show you the changes i would make. also i don't like that sharp front end. I am better and just drawing on paper so please excuse my crappy windows paint adjustments.

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Oh and you should play around with the different front ends on the car like the 70-73 and all the other generations.
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I can see a lot of effort has gone into the design. I've been trying to determine what it reminds me of. I think maybe the Ford Probe is the closest. I've been trying to think about what to do to make it look more like a pony car. Guess I'm just not a designer. I'm looking forward to seeing the evolution of this model.
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Well based on feedback here's the latest. I stretched the cabin a bit toward the front and back but not as radical as was suggested. I tried putting in the c-pillar quarter panel on the top but it still doesn't look right, and it puts back the 3/4 rear view blind spot for the driver. Not sure about trading driving visibility for styling, but I'll play around with it some more.

This is the front that came to mind when I read Oldfriend's suggestion. When moving the headlights towards the outside I had the issue where the grill opening was so narrow I had to either make the headlights smaller, or I chose this option; making a cutout into the lower bumper area so the headlights would fit. It's different but I kind of like it.

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This new shape likes the darker colors much better than the previous shape did.

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I've been putting all my efforts into the sides and front so the back has been just sitting there. I'll see about copying the style from the front where one of the tail lights goes outward to also be the side light. It will be interesting to see how this shapes up.

Great feedback/suggestions everyone!
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Based on your original drawing, I can honestly say I see a little bit of all the big threes pony cars mixed in. The front from camaro, the front fenders from corvette, the side swoop body lines scream dodge at me, and the rear has that old school mustang feel. Personally I wouldn't say camaro for this particular design tho it has more mustang in it from my view. It has a mid engine look to it with that long trunk lid. If you were to move the cabin back more I think that it would eliminate the fast back mustang look and add to the traditional visually forever long hood of the camaro. I also think your missing the camaros traditional "hips" on the rear quarter panels. If you don't know what I'm talking about get in any camaro and look in the side view mirror at the rear quarter. Horsepower bearing hips right there. In your design they blend together somewhere between what dodge has done on their recent muscle car attempts and fancy richpants European super car. Lastly the canopy I know is based off the p-51 but the camaro tends to lean towards a flatter roof line. You've got a lot of corvette bubble going on up there. Maybe flatten the roof out a little?

I personally would love to see a spoiler on soon (I know you said aero was in works) but one thing I personally will voice that I don't like on any car.. Is a pointy front end. And this design has lots lol. Constructive criticism aside and on to personal preference I do not like the front bumper because it rolls to a point both vertically and horizontally. Too much. I think it should have a distinct edge to define the front and side of the car. Aerodynamics be damned!! The grill has a triangular shape to it currently, kind of curios to see what happens if you squared it out more?

Either way, bravo sir.
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I like some of the elements in your sketches. Keep working on the design exercises and do not be swayed by negative comments.

The sketches are showing a basic form of a design idea, but with some more renderings in either a 3-d format or with volumed shapes, the ideas can form into more realistic body shapes.

So keep at it; Additionally, its good to get inspiration from past successful designs. Remember to stop short of borrowing a whole design, and instead use elements to influence a new shape.
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I think the round headlights have to go on your design. Looking into the future and even on some cars now the headlights will likely be more the size of what you have for the signals. I believe if you changed the look of the headlights it would completely change the look of the front view of the car. IMO
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Looks like a Corvette with a High roof line. Front is too small for the back, and I doubt there's enough room for the engine with such a low hood.

A couple of the last images in this thread are one step away from a Character in the next CARS movie.
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