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Old 12-27-2013, 04:27 PM   #26
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I was just thinking about when we could see an official reveal of the 6th gen and realized, if it is a 2016 model, wouldn't we see it sometime in 2014?
No. stop wondering. Your going to get all their panties in a twist
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Old 12-28-2013, 02:33 PM   #27
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It would be nice to see a concept at NAIAS to gauge public reaction and steal some of the Mustang's thunder. The 5th gen concept did come out almost 3 years before production started.
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Old 04-01-2014, 12:10 PM   #28
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Chevy needs to sell as many "squinty eyed fronts-Acura Integra tails" as it can before the Transformers 4 model is even revealed, let alone produced, shipped, and sold. You take off the Froufrou from the Transformers 4 and you see Camaro 6. The current squinty eyed front is really a transitional model to the better looking ultimate goal of 2016. Just like the cheese-slicer-attacked back end of the immediate previous Mustang. The new 2015 Mustang has a more coherent curved back end and is the end goal of the transitional "sliced corners" model. Consider the 2016 Camaro as hiding in plain sight. Why do you think they have been releasing so many trailers of the Camaro in the movie? Do you really think GM will NOT have a Transformers 4 replica when they had NO shame producing such a full size toy before? In order to sell the replica as it did before, the basic car needs to be VERY SIMILAR TO THE MOVIE CAR. This is HUGE advertising for Chevy...and the aftermarket that gets generated.
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Old 04-01-2014, 01:43 PM   #29
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I heard the Camaro will be discontinued after 2014.
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It will sit on about a 109 in. wheelbase compared to the current 112 in. It will be 200lbs lighter or more. The front end clip may be aluminum but not yet confirmed, if so expect more than 200lbs lighter. The problem aluminum is its a body man's nightmare for repair unless just completely replacing the whole panel meaning more expense. My sources confirm to same 2 base engines but the v8 will be upgraded for a little more HP, but the V6 will have a twin turbo option putting out about 400hp. Even without the TT v6 option performance increase will be substantial because of the 200+ weight loss. I estimate all cars to be running stock mid 13s and below. The TT probably hi 12s, V8 probably low to mid 12s. Not to mention the z/28 or ZL1. Don't know about them.
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Very possible to see a test mule in the 3rd quarter of '14. I imagine we will see a 6th gen in full dress by the following year's Chicago and NY Auto Shows.
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:26 AM   #31
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I sure hope soon. We've decided to wait for the 6th gen to come out.
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Old 04-03-2014, 10:48 AM   #32
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When you see camouflaged cars in the spy photos of all the magazines, start the 18 month clock to production. As we haven't seen a photo yet of IV running around you are at the very least a summer of 2015 SORP.

Based on GM's recent history you will not see anything outside of the 1 year window. That would mean the soonest would be LA in November? Then Detroit (January 2015, Chicago (February 2015) or New York (April 2015).

Look at the Corvette. How long before production was it released at an auto show? How long prior did you start to get performance specs?

It's always a balance between giving out information that would make you think about buying a competitor but also not make you wait from buying the current car.


Keep in mind our friends in Dearborn revealed a "finished product" without "full disclosure"...because they were still finalizing exactly what the finished products would be. In content as well as specifications.

Number 3's timelines, based on his experience and recent GM history, are reasonably accurate...

As has been mentioned, when basing a "new" product on an existing platform, the chassis and component development can be "public" without "flopping your cards"...
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Old 04-03-2014, 10:57 AM   #33
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Keep in mind our friends in Dearborn revealed a "finished product" without "full disclosure"...because they were still finalizing exactly what the finished products would be. In content as well as specifications.

Number 3's timelines, based on his experience and recent GM history, are reasonably accurate...

As has been mentioned, when basing a "new" product on an existing platform, the chassis and component development can be "public" without "flopping your cards"...

The Z/28 was revealed in March of last year and orders started about a year later. The C7 was revealed in January and orders started a few months after. We haven't seen any mules, that I know of.
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Old 04-03-2014, 12:07 PM   #34
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I've said it before but I'll say it again...

When the new Mustang starts hitting dealer lots (September-ish?), GM will start throwing the Camaro faithful a few bones... just in case we are tempted to stray.
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Old 04-25-2014, 08:13 AM   #35
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It is weird we haven't been seeing test mules yet. Unless they are using ATSs for testing. If we don't see them by June or July I would be very surprised.
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It is weird we haven't been seeing test mules yet. Unless they are using ATSs for testing.
Or CTSs.

We don't know which Cadillac is closer in size to the new Camaro (though I'd personally prefer something closer to the ATS).
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Old 04-25-2014, 12:47 PM   #37
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Old 04-27-2014, 04:24 AM   #38
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The Z/28 was revealed in March of last year and orders started about a year later. The C7 was revealed in January and orders started a few months after. We haven't seen any mules, that I know of.
This is correct.. The C7 was revealed in January 2013.. Rick Hendrick's Chevrolet had one at their dealership here in Duluth, GA around September/October 2013.. So production can move pretty fast.. My iPhone dates these photos October 2013 I took on my way back from a business trip...

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Old 04-28-2014, 10:18 PM   #39
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'17 model is my bet. On sale by Spring '16 so they get an extended model year like 2010. Concept debuts at NAIAS in Detroit next Jan maybe?
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Old 04-29-2014, 12:53 AM   #40
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We will probably start seeing heavily camouflaged test mules sometime soon with a full reveal later in 2014 or at Detroit January 2015.
I'd say 2015.
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Old 04-29-2014, 12:56 AM   #41
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'17 model is my bet. On sale by Spring '16 so they get an extended model year like 2010. Concept debuts at NAIAS in Detroit next Jan maybe?
A "concept" next January?? Are you serious?

Figure on the real-deal car at NAIAS in January. And on dealer lots by the end of 2015 as a 2016. No way they spot the Mustang much more than a year as the new kid on the block.
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Old 04-30-2014, 02:13 AM   #42
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If 6th gen is the 2016 camaro, i guess it will launch late 2015 and we will see a few teasers at the end of 2014 because of the new Mustang and an officiall reveal in early 2015
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Old 04-30-2014, 11:04 AM   #43
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If the car is to be a 2016 model, then I'm a bit surpised we have not yet seen anything on the car, or a mule. So I don't really doubt the possibility of a late 2015 availability date, or even spring 2016 as a late 2016 model or early 2017 model.

But I think if possible at all, it would be pretty wise of GM to "accidentally" let something of the 6th gen slip out into the public around the time of the 2015 Mustang order date. I'm not talking a teaser shot (too early for that) but maybe get a mule out there and "let" a few spy photographers get a shot or two. That could make some potential Mustang buyers think twice.
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Mules? You mean the Cadillac ATS coupe with Gen6 Camaro tweaks to the powertrain/suspension? That could be seen on your commute into work.
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I think we'll see it - or hints of it - right before the new Mustangs start hitting the lots.
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yeah...I'm watching for it myself. I bet we are looking at January 2015 for the Detroit Auto Show...orders starting in April 2015 for arrival Summer/Fall 2015 as a 2016.
and I think this is a hint at the footprint and weight...maybe a tad lighter due to less Cadillac more Chevy.
http://www.cadillac.com/future-cars/...%20ats%20coupe
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I have to believe GM at least has test mules already. I found this on another forum. Don't know how true this is...

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Was at Milford proving grounds this past Friday, I was standing right next to the Ats-v and 2016 Camaro. Ats-v looks muscular and the Camaro had a v8 and looks very similar to current gen5.

There were 2 cts-v the next row over, but you don't roam too far in those garages at gm

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and I think this is a hint at the footprint and weight...maybe a tad lighter due to less Cadillac more Chevy.
http://www.cadillac.com/future-cars/...%20ats%20coupe
It could go the other way honestly.
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It could go the other way honestly.
I agree. While it's possible the Camaro will shed some weight by having fewer bells and whistles than the ATS, it's also possible that it could weigh more by using fewer lightweight components (for cost). It's also possible that it could be more CTS-sized than ATS-sized. Personally, I'd prefer the smaller size, but who knows what direction GM will go on this.
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