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Old 11-20-2013, 08:41 PM   #1
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Question Would it be wise of GM to release some info on the 6th gen????

As most of us know Ford has announced they are unveiling the 6th gen mustang in 6 major cities on December 5, 2013---------I figured to rain on Fords parade should GM release something about the 6th gen Camaro to steal the excitement over the 6th gen mustang??

I Think that Gm needs to show a teaser shot or give us something on the 6th gen to get the enthusiast response and feedback......
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:49 PM   #2
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Well, to some extent, they've already done a little of that with the "we don't need no stinkin' four-bangers" bit.

I do predict that by the time the Mustang is hitting the showrooms next summer, we will be getting some good leaks. GM is going to want to plant the seed of doubt in the minds of the Mustang buyers.
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:53 PM   #3
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Good idea. They did it to us with the GT500 announcement. Its time for a little payback.
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:22 PM   #4
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I think it would be fun if on December 6th we got some kind of teaser. Maybe a picture of an interesting taillight could just happen to popup....
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:00 PM   #5
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Something would be nice...but a teaser image I very highly doubt.

I'm thinking this car will hit the dealer lots sometime in mid 2015 so we are definitely not getting a teaser this early.
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...too far out, recent history suggests a tight lipped approach by GM for any info prior to the official release of most new introductions, we have to sit tight and wait.
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:13 PM   #7
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Being the attitude that Al has I doubt anything will be leaked or any info will happen. Its that whole don't be a follower which is great. It would be better to let them have their day in the sun then when it is time to smash them next year with the info while the cars are being sold to the public will be a better time release something.
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:51 PM   #8
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Hell no.

If I were GM I wouldn't show the damn thing until a month or two before production.

Even Colorado's reveal last night was waaaaaay too far in advance.
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Old 11-21-2013, 12:35 PM   #9
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Hell no.

If I were GM I wouldn't show the damn thing until a month or two before production.

Even Colorado's reveal last night was waaaaaay too far in advance.
WAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY to far in advance.

They show us the truck and then tell us we have to wait nearly a year to buy the damn thing. Now that just plain sucks.
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Old 11-21-2013, 12:47 PM   #10
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I'm thinking this car will hit the dealer lots sometime in mid 2015
I'm thinking that's pretty hopeful.
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Old 11-21-2013, 12:57 PM   #11
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I'm holding out for spy shots. I have a hunch they won't release anything until there's more pressure to do so. Someone spying a car getting tested might give them the boost they need. I think they'll test the car using ATS body parts to better hide the Camaro on the road.

All of this is speculation. I wish I had some news.
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Old 11-21-2013, 01:03 PM   #12
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Hell no.

If I were GM I wouldn't show the damn thing until a month or two before production.

Even Colorado's reveal last night was waaaaaay too far in advance.

This.

I hate it when cars get revealed and then you realize they won't be on the dealer lots for a year or more. They should get revealed as close to release as possible.
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Old 11-21-2013, 01:55 PM   #13
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GM should do some announcement regardless on 5 Dec.. Maybe a one day promotional offer..
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Old 11-21-2013, 03:24 PM   #14
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Why would GM make an announcement so far in advance? If they did, they might as well shoot themselves in the foot because no one would want to buy a 2015 model.
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Old 11-22-2013, 02:03 PM   #15
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This.

I hate it when cars get revealed and then you realize they won't be on the dealer lots for a year or more. They should get revealed as close to release as possible.
A year is no big deal. 5th gen concept was 2006 and first orders weren't being delivered until 2008. But I'm sure they won't wait that long again, they'll time it to be much closer together.
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Old 11-23-2013, 01:25 PM   #16
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2014 Detroit Auto Show (Naias)?

I would think design of the 6th generation should be complete by now. We should be seeing test mules and or at least "concept vehicle" appearances at auto shows in 2014.

Any word of an appearance at the 2014 Detroit Auto Show (NAIAS) in January, or is that too early?

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Old 11-23-2013, 01:35 PM   #17
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No. Let them take their time. It gives GM enough time to button up some last minute details to ensure that the 6th gen is a success. GM has to remember that the camaro has its own identity, so they should resist the temptation of following any trend the mustang may take. Thus far, I'm not sold on the current trend of the half fastback rake on the c-pillars that seems to be popular (corvette, 2015 mustang sneek peek, etc.). I am hoping that the 6th gen will be at least as distinctive and successful as the 5th gen has been.
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Old 11-23-2013, 02:53 PM   #18
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No, it wouldn't. They shouldn't show ANYTHING. In fact the test mules should have generic no-particular-style body panels specifically for the purpose of just testing everything underneath the body panels. Keep the body style under tight wraps until the car is within 90 days of being in production and for sale on the street.

And PLEASE GM pay somebody to take ACCURATE photos of what the car colors actually look like so the build-your-car website is correct. In fact take 3 color sample photos; one in the day in sunlight, one indoors under indoor lighting, and one at night under street lights. Show all 3 so colors don't get short-changed and discontinued (ABM) because of a web image that isn't even close to the way it really looks.

Avoid gimmicky and trendy; you don't lead by following trends. You lead by creating them. Instead of spending millions and millions trying to squeeze 1 or 2 mpg out of the engine and emissions systems, spend a good chunk of that money on re-engineering all the unsprung and unsprung rotating mass objects on the car. Improve the efficiency of the drivetrain. Not only will you find those extra mpg you were looking for, you'll also find speed and performance without having to add 1 extra horsepower. And don't focus on horsepower anyways; that's top-end pedal-to-the-metal flat-out stuff that you can't even use on the street. Focus on torque. You'll feel and use that every single time you accelerate.

Removing 200 lbs of static weight out of the car is nice but wouldn't make as big a difference in the feel of the car as people think it would. Remove half that; just 100 lbs of unsprung and unsprung rotating weight out and believe me, you'd notice the difference immediately. By pouring R & D money into that one critical area, GM could realize across-the-board gains in performance and mpg for every vehicle they produce without having to do a single thing to their engines.

Keep the next gen Camaro under wraps until the last minute. Make it exciting and choose exciting colors to match so when you do finally unveil everything; the excitement will carry through to sales because people will be able to order and get one within no more than 90 days at the most. None of this "Isn't this exciting? Oh, you can't order one until next year...maybe" jazz.
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In any case, they'll probably be running ATS Coupe mules, not Camaros, for 6th gen development. There's a good chance we'll never even know it's a Camaro underneath there depending on how similar the two cars are.
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what ever GM has been doing in the past has apparently worked.. so keep doing it!
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what ever GM has been doing in the past has apparently worked.. so keep doing it!
..correction...in the recent past.... Your statement pretty much sums it up. We are marching to our own drum.
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I think our closest glimpse of what we can expect from the 6th gen might be the ats coupe
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I think our closest glimpse of what we can expect from the 6th gen might be the ats coupe
I just had an ATS Sedan 2.0L Turbo AWD for a week. I know everyone's cheering Al O saying that there won't be a 4 banger in the 6th gen (and as much as I respect Al, I really really really doubt there won't be a 2.0L Turbo in the 6th gen...), but everyone who drove the car couldn't believe it was "only" a turbo 4 banger in there - everyone was swearing up and down it had to be atleast the LFX v6. It takes off real strong like a rocket, and it's VERY nimble.

I know when the 5th gen was pre-production they were saying to look at the Cadillac CTS to see what to expect for the 5th gen... And now that we're getting close to the 6th gen, we're seeing history repeat - only this time we're looking at the Cadillac ATS for clues (which is why I'm thinking there's going to be a 2.0L Turbo in the 6th gen).
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I just had an ATS Sedan 2.0L Turbo AWD for a week. I know everyone's cheering Al O saying that there won't be a 4 banger in the 6th gen (and as much as I respect Al, I really really really doubt there won't be a 2.0L Turbo in the 6th gen...), but everyone who drove the car couldn't believe it was "only" a turbo 4 banger in there - everyone was swearing up and down it had to be atleast the LFX v6. It takes off real strong like a rocket, and it's VERY nimble.

I know when the 5th gen was pre-production they were saying to look at the Cadillac CTS to see what to expect for the 5th gen... And now that we're getting close to the 6th gen, we're seeing history repeat - only this time we're looking at the Cadillac ATS for clues (which is why I'm thinking there's going to be a 2.0L Turbo in the 6th gen).
Just cause it's a good engine doesn't mean we'll see it in the sixth gen. The LGX could be even better and cheaper to produce. That other thread is confusing to the point where I don't know if Al O said no four cylinder or not. If he did say we aren't getting it, I would think we could take that to the bank.
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