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Old 09-15-2013, 03:01 PM   #18
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Steve - I don't disagree and have ordered a new C7...the only design element I don't like is the black "tear" to the outside of the taillight you show. RPI is now offering body colored bezels that should take care of that.



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Old 09-15-2013, 03:07 PM   #19
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Steve - I don't disagree and have ordered a new C7...the only design element I don't like is the black "tear" to the outside of the taillight you show. RPI is now offering body colored bezels that should take care of that.



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Hey Glen....I think making that vent bezel the body color will help a bunch! The fact that RPI offers that is an indicator that the rear fascia has not been well received. Will you have your C7 by then? I saw a truck load of them head south on I95 yesterday!
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Old 09-15-2013, 03:11 PM   #20
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The biggest questions on the NG car will be retro or not. It's that simple. If you think the Camaro has to represent the history of the car then that one question is most critical for you.

If you look at everything that GM has done with the launches since the Camaro you can get a feel for what is coming.

Improvements to the Impala, heralded by pretty much everyone. Huge step up in the interior. Added many technology upgrades. Solid all around.

ATS. Still has the vision problems associated with high belt, slammed roof and huge C-pillars. Giant up grade in the interior. Giant demonstration of GM's prowess in ride and handling. CUE is a great start. Not liked by many yet but it's growing on me even.

CTS. Demonstration of what GM can do with an architectural variant off of Alpha. Application of further powertrain enhancements and V-sport tuning.

FST and Utilities. Very solid evolutions on interior, exterior, powertrain and NVH.

Yes we have to wait for real reviews of a few of these products, but preliminary reviews are pretty solid.

And your use of the C7, well that has been a bit polarizing but for the most part it's growing on people. My opinion, GM could have made it very plain, i.e. Porsche rear ends and done ok. You won't mistake this going down the road.

As for the Camaro refresh for 2014, that is a historical reference to later Camaros which takes us back to the first question. Retro or not to retro.

For me, I hope they go far beyond with the Camaro and take a bold step forward and leave the history behind. I predict they don't have the courage to do that and it would take courage.

But we will have to see what happens....................annnnnnd the anticipation continues.
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Old 09-15-2013, 03:12 PM   #21
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IMO the C7 is a Home Run! As for the C6 Camaro.....if it looks anything like the possible concept Veh in the spy shots for the new Transformers Movie.....that's ALL fail except the hood!
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Old 09-15-2013, 03:26 PM   #22
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Hey Glen....I think making that vent bezel the body color will help a bunch! The fact that RPI offers that is an indicator that the rear fascia has not been well received. Will you have your C7 by then? I saw a truck load of them head south on I95 yesterday!
should have by Nov10th - another interesting note - I got a few dealers to value my trade before I found a better offer up north for the Camaro. Every one of the used car managers said the vents looked nice and they were most concerned if the engine would get wet. When I showed them the pans, they totally liked the mod and did not shy away from giving me ex-clean money for the car...Just in case anyone is worrying that Steve's vents may hurt resale...
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Old 09-15-2013, 03:35 PM   #23
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The 6th Gen Camaro will be fine. The C7 Corvette is good as long as all the vents are body color. I am anxious to see what happens when the ZO6 and the ZR1 come out. The Base and Z51 are really setting the bar high.
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Old 09-15-2013, 03:51 PM   #24
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The biggest questions on the NG car will be retro or not. It's that simple. If you think the Camaro has to represent the history of the car then that one question is most critical for you.

If you look at everything that GM has done with the launches since the Camaro you can get a feel for what is coming.

Improvements to the Impala, heralded by pretty much everyone. Huge step up in the interior. Added many technology upgrades. Solid all around.

ATS. Still has the vision problems associated with high belt, slammed roof and huge C-pillars. Giant up grade in the interior. Giant demonstration of GM's prowess in ride and handling. CUE is a great start. Not liked by many yet but it's growing on me even.

CTS. Demonstration of what GM can do with an architectural variant off of Alpha. Application of further powertrain enhancements and V-sport tuning.

FST and Utilities. Very solid evolutions on interior, exterior, powertrain and NVH.

Yes we have to wait for real reviews of a few of these products, but preliminary reviews are pretty solid.

And your use of the C7, well that has been a bit polarizing but for the most part it's growing on people. My opinion, GM could have made it very plain, i.e. Porsche rear ends and done ok. You won't mistake this going down the road.

As for the Camaro refresh for 2014, that is a historical reference to later Camaros which takes us back to the first question. Retro or not to retro.

For me, I hope they go far beyond with the Camaro and take a bold step forward and leave the history behind. I predict they don't have the courage to do that and it would take courage.

But we will have to see what happens....................annnnnnd the anticipation continues.
Good post....clearly GM is making great improvements in key areas, interior design being the most prominent. The interior of the C7 Corvette is reminiscent of high-end German sedans and sports cars.

I suspect they'll get the 6th generation Camaro mostly right. Heck, they've got a huge user community here from which to gather input.
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Old 09-15-2013, 03:55 PM   #25
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The 6th Gen Camaro will be fine. The C7 Corvette is good as long as all the vents are body color. I am anxious to see what happens when the ZO6 and the ZR1 come out. The Base and Z51 are really setting the bar high.
That's what I'm waiting for, the C6 Z06 is a huge upgrade over the base model C6.
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Old 09-15-2013, 05:19 PM   #26
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The rear fascia on the Corvette is ok on the Corvette. I don't love it, but I don't hate it either.

Given what they did with the 2014 Camaro rear end, here's praying the do change it to something else.
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Old 09-15-2013, 05:31 PM   #27
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Like everything else some will love it some will hate it and others won't care because its a Camaro..,
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Old 09-15-2013, 05:45 PM   #28
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So far, the only color I've seen that the tear drop is not that flattering is the crystal red.
Every other color, I think the rear fascia is gorgeous.

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Old 09-15-2013, 05:47 PM   #29
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There's only one thing I dislike about the C7.

And that is ...







one is not sitting in my driveway!!!
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Good post....clearly GM is making great improvements in key areas, interior design being the most prominent. The interior of the C7 Corvette is reminiscent of high-end German sedans and sports cars.

I suspect they'll get the 6th generation Camaro mostly right. Heck, they've got a huge user community here from which to gather input.
I predict...................and you can mark this date in history..............THEY WON'T MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY not matter what they do.

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Old 09-15-2013, 05:50 PM   #31
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I predict...................and you can mark this date in history..............THEY WON'T MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY not matter what they do.

Just sayin'
Well they should, even if it is impossible.
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I'm more worried about what car they will copy and how badly they will copy it. That's how they got the C7. So I would imagine that's how they will do the 6th gen camaro. Either way it will look horrible just like the C7.
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Old 09-15-2013, 06:56 PM   #33
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So far, the only color I've seen that the tear drop is not that flattering is the crystal red.
Every other color, I think the rear fascia is gorgeous.

I must admit, that camera angle is the best I've seen that rear fascia look.
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:08 PM   #34
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I'm more worried about what car they will copy and how badly they will copy it. That's how they got the C7. So I would imagine that's how they will do the 6th gen camaro. Either way it will look horrible just like the C7.
And what car did they copy for the C7 toughguy?
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