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Old 06-05-2013, 09:18 PM   #69
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The slash was dropped in 1973
...actually, the slash as it's referred to was dropped after 1969, 1970 through 1974 Camaro's Z28's used the same emblem....without the slash....
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Old 06-06-2013, 04:42 AM   #70
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everyone likes what they like lol

I've owned 6 Camaro's and 4 of which were t-tops. My 2 hardtops were fun as hell to drive in the twisties, but I loved my t-top cars more.

btw I hate it when people put SS hood's on a Z28, why not just buy the SS in the first place?
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Old 06-06-2013, 04:54 PM   #71
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...actually, the slash as it's referred to was dropped after 1969, 1970 through 1974 Camaro's Z28's used the same emblem....without the slash....
You are correct I got struck by CRS again I should've known better


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Old 06-06-2013, 09:21 PM   #72
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CRS and chewing gum and talking at the same time without difficulty go hand in hand.....sadly I admit that's so....as that comes on with age.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:35 PM   #73
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Yes, when it comes to being a Z28. It's decently fast but I wouldn't track it as it came stock. I enjoy my car but that doesn't mean it was built in honor of the Z/28 heritage.
They did the best they could with the technology they had at the time and it took over a decade for Ford to catch up to the fourth gens straight line performance. To me the fifth gen Z/28 is it's own animal as the original Z/28s had a similar purpose but were no where close in regards to the price of the fifth gen Z.
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:40 PM   #74
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They did the best they could with the technology they had at the time and it took over a decade for Ford to catch up to the fourth gens straight line performance. To me the fifth gen Z/28 is it's own animal as the original Z/28s had a similar purpose but were no where close in regards to the price of the fifth gen Z.
I don't know if I would say they did the best they could with what they had. I would say they did what they were willing to with the Camaro.

The 1st, early 2nd and 5th gen Z/28s are true to the badge, in my opinion. The rest just used it for marketing.
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:26 AM   #75
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The 1st and early 2nd gen F-bodies played in an era of much tougher competition than did the 3rd and 4th gen cars.

All the 3rds and 4ths faced were warmed-over Ford Fairmonts with rear suspensions that look a lot like GM's intermediates from the 1960's through the mid 1980's. When the other guy runs his entry-level sedan chassis with about 50 cubic inches less engine than yours and calls it the performance model of his ponycar, how hard do you really have to try?

The 5th gen is up against a far better Mustang - GRM considers the S197 a game-changer (current issue on the stands). The 5th gen's standard bearers are that much better as a result. Have to be.


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Old 06-07-2013, 12:17 PM   #76
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I kept my 4th gen Z28 when I bought the 5th gen.
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Old 06-07-2013, 12:19 PM   #77
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The 1st and early 2nd gen F-bodies played in an era of much tougher competition than did the 3rd and 4th gen cars.

All the 3rds and 4ths faced were warmed-over Ford Fairmonts with rear suspensions that look a lot like GM's intermediates from the 1960's through the mid 1980's. When the other guy runs his entry-level sedan chassis with about 50 cubic inches less engine than yours and calls it the performance model of his ponycar, how hard do you really have to try?

The 5th gen is up against a far better Mustang - GRM considers the S197 a game-changer (current issue on the stands). The 5th gen's standard bearers are that much better as a result. Have to be.


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Thats why I said GM built the Camaro they were willing to. Even though the Camaro was faster, it still died and the Mustang lived on.
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:35 PM   #78
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^...move into the 21st Century...trade in something...get some skin in on the game, get on board with the Gen 5 Camaro, or even plan on the the Gen 6 without so much commentary. Really.....prolific without first hand knowledge on so much...
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:06 PM   #79
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I never liked T Tops or the 4th generation camaro. I only liked the 1st and 2nd generation camaro. If I were looking for a 2nd generation firebird or camaro, I would not buy one with T tops.
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:27 PM   #80
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Nothing better than a tight strong fixed roof IMO, T-Tops, sun roofs, Targa cars are weak. 3RD gen and 4th gen camaro 1le, b4c, and a lot of the GMMG cars were solid roof cars. Also all 100 of the LT4 SS 97 camaros were manual trans and solid roof cars, no t-tops and no verts
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:29 PM   #81
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^...move into the 21st Century...trade in something...get some skin in on the game, get on board with the Gen 5 Camaro, or even plan on the the Gen 6 without so much commentary. Really.....prolific without first hand knowledge on so much...
For the money I have put in my Chevelle when it is all said and done, I could have paid cash for a new Camaro. I won't be buying a new car for a while until after it is done either. Not to mention, I wasn't too interested in buying a new Camaro until the 1LE came out.

I don't get how me not owning a new Camaro means I can't discuss it. Besides, this conversation is about GM building future Z28s like the one I am driving. How do I not have skin in this game?
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Old 06-13-2013, 12:57 AM   #82
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T-tops in the 80s were the bomb, loved them! 2 79 Anniversary Trans Ams and an 85 firebird! I think on a Z/28 is a bit much but ok on the rest of the line.
We have the same taste in cars! Love the '79 Aniversary T/A.

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Old 06-13-2013, 12:59 AM   #83
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For the money I have put in my Chevelle when it is all said and done, I could have paid cash for a new Camaro. I won't be buying a new car for a while until after it is done either. Not to mention, I wasn't too interested in buying a new Camaro until the 1LE came out.

I don't get how me not owning a new Camaro means I can't discuss it. Besides, this conversation is about GM building future Z28s like the one I am driving. How do I not have skin in this game?
Don't pay attention these childish comments. That's all some people can come back with if they disagree with you. It's a public forum. Anyone can comment.

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Old 06-13-2013, 09:38 AM   #84
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Nothing better than a tight strong fixed roof IMO, T-Tops, sun roofs, Targa cars are weak. 3RD gen and 4th gen camaro 1le, b4c, and a lot of the GMMG cars were solid roof cars. Also all 100 of the LT4 SS 97 camaros were manual trans and solid roof cars, no t-tops and no verts
4th gens were engineered with t-tops. This is why it's so easy to do a hardtop to t-top conversion. Fbodfather has even commented that cars with t-tops were no less structurally sound.

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Old 06-14-2013, 02:34 PM   #85
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4th gens were engineered with t-tops. This is why it's so easy to do a hardtop to t-top conversion. Fbodfather has even commented that cars with t-tops were no less structurally sound.

No less structurally sound than what?

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