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Old 06-04-2013, 06:21 AM   #43
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There is always the COPO *COUGH*
Not for the activities I'd be wearing a helmet for. Sorry.


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Old 06-04-2013, 07:12 AM   #44
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There is always the COPO *COUGH*
The COPO isn't a track car ,but rather drag car. I love the direction that GM took with the Z/28. That is what is should be. The watered down gen 4 was a Z28 in name only.

The 60's cars made the name. The gen 4s just used the name for marketing to try and sell a mediocre car with slumping sales.
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Old 06-04-2013, 08:09 AM   #45
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Give it up. We know you don't want the Z/28 to top your ZL1 but it's getting old. Enjoy your car. It's still an awesome machine.
It has nothing to do with topping the ZL1, lol. I didn't buy it because it was the big in HP. I would have went with the GT500 if that was the case. Don't add assumptions to the thread, or assuming you know my motives which are wrong. And yes I will continue to drive this awesome machine. Enjoy yours as well, GM did a fantastic job on the 5th Gen.

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Old 06-04-2013, 08:29 AM   #46
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The COPO isn't a track car ,but rather drag car. I love the direction that GM took with the Z/28. That is what is should be. The watered down gen 4 was a Z28 in name only.

The 60's cars made the name. The gen 4s just used the name for marketing to try and sell a mediocre car with slumping sales.
Except that every "performance" vehicle in the Chevrolet stable during the 80's & 90's used "Zxx" nomenclature. Considering the slash was ditched in 1982, then it's quite incorrect to state the 4th gen was a Z28 in name only. There are several people, Scott Settlemire included, who would easily be able to usurp that comment.
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:49 AM   #47
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Targa.....Targa.....Targa!!!

Let me ask you this: How do you propose removing the top?


Keep in mind that the Camaro is quite a bit taller and wider than a Corvette....

one would have to be well over 6 feet tall and strong to be able to lift it on or off.

My proof: Ask someone who witnessed what I did to a pre-production Corvette C6 in Atlanta at the Atlanta Gathering on a hot day as a storm approached....



...it did not end well.........

The other issue is structural rigidity - one thing that sets a 5th gen far apart from a 4th and 3rd gen is the structural rigidity.......
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Old 06-04-2013, 10:01 AM   #48
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Let me ask you this: How do you propose removing the top?


Keep in mind that the Camaro is quite a bit taller and wider than a Corvette....

one would have to be well over 6 feet tall and strong to be able to lift it on or off.

My proof: Ask someone who witnessed what I did to a pre-production Corvette C6 in Atlanta at the Atlanta Gathering on a hot day as a storm approached....



...it did not end well.........

The other issue is structural rigidity - one thing that sets a 5th gen far apart from a 4th and 3rd gen is the structural rigidity.......
I'm 6'2 and 235lbs!

Thank you for clearing it up though, sir. Very much appreciated!
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Old 06-04-2013, 10:55 AM   #49
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It has nothing to do with topping the ZL1, lol. I didn't buy it because it was the big in HP. I would have went with the GT500 if that was the case. Don't add assumptions to the thread, or assuming you know my motives which are wrong. And yes I will continue to drive this awesome machine. Enjoy yours as well, GM did a fantastic job on the 5th Gen.
Then why so you keep saying GM should build the lesser car?
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Then why so you keep saying GM should build the lesser car?
Is your 1998 Z28 a lesser car?
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Old 06-04-2013, 11:11 AM   #51
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Is your 1998 Z28 a lesser car?
Yes, when it comes to being a Z28. It's decently fast but I wouldn't track it as it came stock. I enjoy my car but that doesn't mean it was built in honor of the Z/28 heritage.
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Except that every "performance" vehicle in the Chevrolet stable during the 80's & 90's used "Zxx" nomenclature. Considering the slash was ditched in 1982, then it's quite incorrect to state the 4th gen was a Z28 in name only. There are several people, Scott Settlemire included, who would easily be able to usurp that comment.
The slash was dropped in 1973
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Yes, when it comes to being a Z28. It's decently fast but I wouldn't track it as it came stock. I enjoy my car but that doesn't mean it was built in honor of the Z/28 heritage.
Why not? You realize there are many people who used their Z28's just as they came from the factory in SCCA racing, right? Just check out Sam Strano and Solo II, for instance. One didn't need a 1LE to race their vehicle -- and win. There's also the Camaro-Mustang Challenge series, etc. Just because it was "just" another Camaro model rather than some "special" option doesn't make it any less commendable, especially if we put it into the context of its competition from that time frame.
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The slash was dropped in 1973
Fair enough. My "expertise" doesn't go past 1982, so I steer clear of trying to talk authoritatively about 1st and 2nd gens.
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Yes, when it comes to being a Z28. It's decently fast but I wouldn't track it as it came stock. I enjoy my car but that doesn't mean it was built in honor of the Z/28 heritage.
I don't agree with you, sorry. How old are you if you don't mind me asking? I'm not trying to be negative or sarcastic just trying to see what era you grew up in. I'm 28. So the heritage for me starts with the Z28 which you currently own. I can't comment on the earlier generations.

It has to be hard for you to drive a car that doesn't honor the Z28 name. Why do you own it? You choose it for a reason.
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Why not? You realize there are many people who used their Z28's just as they came from the factory in SCCA racing, right? Just check out Sam Strano and Solo II, for instance. One didn't need a 1LE to race their vehicle -- and win. There's also the Camaro-Mustang Challenge series, etc. Just because it was "just" another Camaro model rather than some "special" option doesn't make it any less commendable, especially if we put it into the context of its competition from that time frame.
Maybe my car is more tired than I realized. If I wasn't putting so much money in my Chevelle, I would fix the Z28.

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I don't agree with you, sorry. How old are you if you don't mind me asking? I'm not trying to be negative or sarcastic just trying to see what era you grew up in. I'm 28. So the heritage for me starts with the Z28 which you currently own. I can't comment on the earlier generations.

It has to be hard for you to drive a car that doesn't honor the Z28 name. Why do you own it? You choose it for a reason.
I'm 23. I grew up with it and its the car that got me interested in Camaros.

I drive it because my Chevelle isn't done and I still think its a good car, just not in the way a Z/28 is.
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