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Old 03-06-2013, 09:35 PM   #18
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Soloknight6...the parts have been there for along time to utilze them into a platform as you allude to, the thing is it's a reoccuring theme with the same result....parts stay in the bin....with no futherence of a performance goal in mind, other than a corporate introduction of a model or design based on long term use, with no change within, rather visionary shorter term upgrades with a goal in mind to beat the competition on a micro level, rather than a slow changing macro approach.
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:36 PM   #19
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I like that look. Make the vents on the hood functional, DRLs LEDs on the outside of blackened section and functional brake ducts on the inside. NPP instead of that exhaust they are using.
I dont know if they would retool the parts they already have. But I like your ideas. The reason I think the refreshed camaros will look like the Leno concept, is because the diffuser, fascia, and hood all had part numbers. They were in the system for a short time, then they disappeared.
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:39 PM   #20
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So much fir all you guys saying that the gen 6 is going to be out in 15-16.. you DO NOT do a refresh and then build new model in one or two years..



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Of course you do. In fact that's par for the course. The only reason to do a scheduled refresh is to keep the existing product relevant for another year or so until a new model is ready.
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:40 PM   #21
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They've already made plans to move the car's production to another plant...can't see any major additions or changes until after that move is completed...
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:42 PM   #22
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...the parts have been there for along time to utilze them into a platform as you allude to, the thing is it's a reoccuring theme with the same result....parts stay in the bin....with no futherence of a performance goal in mind, other than a corporate introduction of a model or design based on long term use, with no change within, rather visionary shorter term upgrades with a goal in mind to beat the competition on a micro level, rather than a slow changing macro approach.
Speak plain, and with less commas.
All they are doing is a cosmetic refresh, with the possibility of introducing a very limited LS7 variant. When the 1LE was released, it used parts taken from the "Bin." The LENO camaro concept's front splitter was used, as well as the LENO rocker panels (Also seen on the latter ZL1). If GM is doing a cosmetic refresh, I am certain they would use parts that already exist on a concept. I think it would be silly for them to tool new cosmetic pieces. A big waste of money, and time. Paying designers and engineers to create a new front bumper/hood/whatever they end up doing; or go with the parts used on the Leno and TF3 car? Shouldn't be a tough decision.
If they want to update the 5th gens look at the end of its run... They already have the parts... And they have alredy used them on production cars (1LE & ZL1)... Thats all Im saying.



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I dont know if they would retool the parts they already have. But I like your ideas. The reason I think the refreshed camaros will look like the Leno concept, is because the diffuser, fascia, and hood all had part numbers. They were in the system for a short time, then they disappeared.
...you will probably be sorely dissapointed if you believe that, refresh is code word for fluff....nothing will be retooled, tools and dies will press,cut, and stamp out parts as before in large, some accoutrements will be added....
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:53 PM   #24
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...you will probably be sorely dissapointed if you believe that, refresh is code word for fluff....nothing will be retooled, tools and dies will press,cut, and stamp out parts as before in large, some accoutrements will be added....
Thats what im trying to say... We are having trouble communicating lol. Im saying they will use already existing parts. Like the Leno front fascia, the Leno hood, etc. To retool anything would be stupid financially.
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Thats what im trying to say... We are having trouble communicating lol. Im saying they will use already existing parts. Like the Leno front fascia, the Leno hood, etc. To retool anything would be stupid financially.
LOL, if we actually talked together we more than likely would understand each others point...... So much for forums, written text, and the internet. Cheers!
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:24 PM   #26
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LOL, if we actually talked together we more than likely would understand each others point...... So much for forums, written text, and the internet. Cheers!
True lol. I am challenged when it comes to forums. Cheers!
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:40 PM   #27
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If they end up going with the Leno front end...I may be saying bye bye to my heritage grille, and street scene lower grille.....and the entire bumper lol.
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:58 PM   #28
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2009 mustang looks waaaay diff than a 2010 up.. jyst sayin.
Sheetmetal can and will change.. maybe not mounting spots but it us going to change.. this car u s not going anywhere until 2016-17..
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:23 AM   #30
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Probably gonna be some sheetmetal tweaks. Got to keep the design fresh before new model. I know ill catch flack for saying this, but the 5th gen design to me is getting stale. Ive seen since the concept came out back in 06. Time to tweak it a bit IMO. Keep it fresh and exciting before a new model comes out.
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Blah blah blah, another thread by a misinformed poster.
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Old 03-07-2013, 03:39 PM   #32
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Lol mis unformed.. do any of you have any idea how much it costs to do a mid model facelift.. it isn't something you do if your releasing a brand new platform in a year. The new camaro WILL NoT HIT THE GROUND before a new cts.. the cts and camaro are again going to be built I n the same platform and that car isn't hitting rhe ground until 2016.. the gen 6 is going to be a 2017 model.. wht would they wait.. hmm I don't know, maybe for the 50th.. naa. That makes way sense huh?
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Old 03-07-2013, 03:48 PM   #33
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Lol mis unformed.. do any of you have any idea how much it costs to do a mid model facelift.. it isn't something you do if your releasing a brand new platform in a year. The new camaro WILL NoT HIT THE GROUND before a new cts.. the cts and camaro are again going to be built I n the same platform and that car isn't hitting rhe ground until 2016.. the gen 6 is going to be a 2017 model.. wht would they wait.. hmm I don't know, maybe for the 50th.. naa. That makes way sense huh?
GM has never released a new generation of a Camaro during an anniversary year. The sixth gen might just come as a 2017 model though, which would mean we are getting one heck of a refresh.
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Lol mis unformed.. do any of you have any idea how much it costs to do a mid model facelift.. it isn't something you do if your releasing a brand new platform in a year. The new camaro WILL NoT HIT THE GROUND before a new cts.. the cts and camaro are again going to be built I n the same platform and that car isn't hitting rhe ground until 2016.. the gen 6 is going to be a 2017 model.. wht would they wait.. hmm I don't know, maybe for the 50th.. naa. That makes way sense huh?
The Camaro is most likely going to be build on the Alpha platform which the ATs is based. The CTS, if I remember right, will be on a stretched Alpha.
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