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Old 11-12-2014, 03:13 PM   #1
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2016 Camaro weight speculation

Well.. Sort of.

ATS-V weight has been publicised at 3600lbs.

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http://jalopnik.com/the-2015-cadilla...and-1657355253

If the ATS-V is a twin turbo V6 with all possible luxuries, what will a stripper LT1 camaro weigh?

This is my first post here. I've been following the camaro since camaro5.com more or less. I registered because i could not believe why no one had brought this fairly new info up yet?

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Old 11-12-2014, 03:34 PM   #2
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Not sure about that link as I can't get it to work, but it could be the same as this

http://wot.motortrend.com/1411_leake...d_in_full.html
we get a "daily" automotive news here at work since we are automotove supplier to Camaro/GM and this is one came through today.
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Old 11-12-2014, 03:37 PM   #3
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Although the weight of the ATS-V is interesting, I don't think that we can draw any definitive conclusions about the weight of the new Camaro.
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Old 11-12-2014, 04:14 PM   #4
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The link is working here!

No, we cant draw any conclusions. But this the ATS-V is the same platform. It's a fully loaded twin turbo v6 most likely used as a test ground of some sort for the camaro. If a fully loaded ATS-V weighs 3600lbs, and a base model weighing in at 3350, dont you find it likely that the new camaro will weigh no more than 3600lbs in v8 trim?

If not please enlighten me.
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Old 11-12-2014, 04:43 PM   #5
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3600 lbs sounds like a decent estimate. I personally think the v8 camaro will come in a bit heavier, I'm guessing a tad under 3700 lbs.

And on a side note, the ATS V is shaping up to be a mighty fine car, and the GT3 spec race car is looking pretty nasty.
http://www.racer.com/pwc/item/108174...677703821217_n
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Old 11-12-2014, 05:09 PM   #6
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I agree that it will likely be around 3,700 lbs. I'm sure they will put beefier drivetrain in it. However it does make you wonder about the net weight difference between the engines. The LS series of engine is light for what it is and I believe the LT1 weigh's like 30lbs more than the LS3. With the LF3 being DOHC and has turbo + plumbing I'm willing to wager it is close to being a wash.

If the 6th gen. SS comes out weighing <3700 lbs I will be delightfully surprised.
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Old 11-12-2014, 05:29 PM   #7
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DOHC, turbo, piping, intercooler and what not.. A LT1 camaro sporting the same horespower as the ATS-V, should be lighter. Im thinking the caddy also is heavier due to is being more luxurious.

If they dont succeed in making it lighter than the already relatively light ATS-V, i'll consider it as a fail.
Also.. If they cant get it lighter with a v8, how do they plan on handling the ecoboost 2.3l mustang with a 2.0liter down on horsepower?
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Old 11-12-2014, 05:45 PM   #8
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wow, what a let down of a thread. more speculation. *sigh*
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Old 11-12-2014, 06:01 PM   #9
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not even sort of....


title is bogus. good ol' bait n switch
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Old 11-12-2014, 06:29 PM   #10
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Seriously, the title needs to be changed. It's still pure speculation.
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Old 11-12-2014, 07:26 PM   #11
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Seriously, the title needs to be changed. It's still pure speculation.
Agree with this^
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:28 PM   #12
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The CTS V-Sport is also off of the Alpha platform and also has the 3.6L TT engine and weights in around 4,000 pounds.

What we don't know is how much high dollar low mass hardware was involved to get a 3,600 pound ATS-V. Might be some CF in the hood for example that you won't see in a Camaro or at least at mid level SS Camaro.

Gives an idea of what might be but what will be is anyone's guess.
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:38 PM   #13
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If the 2.0L ATS coupe is weighing in around 3450 lbs and the V6 at 3560 lbs,

I don't see how a V8 Camaro on the same platform is going to lose much weight from where the 5th gen is now. The V8 engine, the transmission, rear end, brakes, cooling all adds weight.
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Old 11-12-2014, 11:08 PM   #14
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Well.. Sort of.

ATS-V weight has been publicised at 3600lbs.

Check the link
http://jalopnik.com/the-2015-cadilla...and-1657355253

If the ATS-V is a twin turbo V6 with all possible luxuries, what will a stripper LT1 camaro weigh?

This is my first post here. I've been following the camaro since camaro5.com more or less. I registered because i could not believe why no one had brought this fairly new info up yet?

Please, discuss
Adding luxury usually adds weight. But cutting weight usually costs money. The question is, which plays a bigger role: features or cost? And keep in mind, a lot of what used to be considered luxury is now standard.


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If the 2.0L ATS coupe is weighing in around 3450 lbs and the V6 at 3560 lbs,

I don't see how a V8 Camaro on the same platform is going to lose much weight from where the 5th gen is now. The V8 engine, the transmission, rear end, brakes, cooling all adds weight.
You might have to define 'much weight' here. Because to me, that implies less than about 50 lbs and I don't see that happening. The V6 ATS is about 200 lbs lighter than the current V6 Camaro. I can't see the 6th gen Camaro adding back 150 lbs
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Old 11-13-2014, 01:12 AM   #15
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Too much speculation. You cant base anything off the ATS-V because its not even know if the Camaro is using the ATS wheelbase, CTS wb or its own hybrid version of Alpha. There are other things that make speculating the weight tough. 1 thing is the new panel bonding adhesive GM is trickling in as well as the mass produced carbon fiber technology. The Camaro was developed later than the ATS or CTS, so you may or may not see it use technologies that wont be seen on the ATS/CTS until their next design cycles. To many variables here. GM seems to be on a mission to weigh less than the competition now, so who hell knows how stuff will shake out.
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Old 11-13-2014, 04:53 AM   #16
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I cant change the headline. Maybe a moderator can?

Sorry about the clickbait. I did not know the CTS-V also is based on the same platform yet weighs substantially more then the ATS. Thats why i though we more or less knew what the 6th gen would weigh.
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Old 11-13-2014, 07:04 AM   #17
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Old 11-13-2014, 01:38 PM   #18
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The '15 ATS Coupe 3.6 "Premium" weighs 3530 according to the Caddy website...

The LFX engine weighs about 360, and the LF3 engine weighs about 485, (I'm assuming these are dry weights?) so add 125 lbs to the 3.6 Premium coupe weight, and you're up to 3655... I would guess this weight doesn't include the heat exchanger to cool the intercooler system fluids, or that fluid in the system, the pump etc, extra oil the LF3 engine requires etc... How much more do the magnetic ride control components, and the 8 speed auto trans weigh?

I'd say at a rough guess, the ATS-V couple would weigh a minimum of 3750, up to say 3900lbs max... Rough guess...

An LS3 weighs 403lbs, I can't find an LT1 weight, so I guess we can assume about 30lb heavier... So about 50 pounds lighter than an LF3, minus the mag ride, the intercooler junk etc... Maybe 100 lbs lighter than an LF3 equipped car?

I'd guess than a v8 equipped 6th gen Camaro will weigh between 3650 and 3800lbs.

Only time will tell...
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Old 11-13-2014, 03:05 PM   #19
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I'd sell everything i had to get the new camaro if it somehow weighed less than 3600 with a v8 and a manual..

That would be less than an ecoboost mustang, so i guess the chances are pretty slim
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Old 11-13-2014, 05:48 PM   #20
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Hoping for a V8 manual at under 3600 pounds.
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Old 11-13-2014, 06:02 PM   #21
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The '15 ATS Coupe 3.6 "Premium" weighs 3530 according to the Caddy website...

The LFX engine weighs about 360, and the LF3 engine weighs about 485, (I'm assuming these are dry weights?) so add 125 lbs to the 3.6 Premium coupe weight, and you're up to 3655... I would guess this weight doesn't include the heat exchanger to cool the intercooler system fluids, or that fluid in the system, the pump etc, extra oil the LF3 engine requires etc... How much more do the magnetic ride control components, and the 8 speed auto trans weigh?

I'd say at a rough guess, the ATS-V couple would weigh a minimum of 3750, up to say 3900lbs max... Rough guess...

An LS3 weighs 403lbs, I can't find an LT1 weight, so I guess we can assume about 30lb heavier... So about 50 pounds lighter than an LF3, minus the mag ride, the intercooler junk etc... Maybe 100 lbs lighter than an LF3 equipped car?

I'd guess than a v8 equipped 6th gen Camaro will weigh between 3650 and 3800lbs.

Only time will tell...
I think under 3700 lbs would be reasonable. I don't think the base SS will be 3600 lbs but a premium car like a Z/28 could be.
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Old 11-13-2014, 09:17 PM   #22
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I'd also love to see a 6th Gen SS @ 3,600lbs or less ......... keeping my fingers crossed ....
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:42 PM   #23
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I'm guessing 3700-3800 for the SS.
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Old 11-14-2014, 04:16 AM   #24
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Do "The Price is Right" rules apply here? .. I'm gonna go with 3,755 for an SS
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Old 11-14-2014, 05:02 AM   #25
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I'm hoping for around 3500 lbs but realistically I think 3600 will be the number for the SS at least.
If they can put out a v6 / i4 at 3200 or less I'd be in love.
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