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Old 12-19-2012, 06:22 PM   #85
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thats good. But watch them mess up the look of the car by cutting weight and such. It looks mean now, watch it go to looking like everything else on the street...hum drum:(
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:26 PM   #86

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...I'm glad the Camaro is coming back home for the only reason it was made here for the longest time until it was outsourced. Our Canadian neighbors did an admirable job of producing the car after that fact. Thank you Canada. Welcome home Camaro.
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:29 PM   #87
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I'd be jumping on that 13' 1LE. Just sayin
I hear ya. The good news is I should have my 1LE fund at proper capacity right around time that solid information should be available on the 2014s and the 2013s will still be available to order. Holding out just a tiny bit longer for a metallic blue (not BRM).
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:30 PM   #88

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I wonder if the right to work laws played a part??
Don't think it hurt them any.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:07 PM   #89
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I am ok with production coming back to the US just as long as the build quality is on par with the Osawa plant. they have done a great job and have set the bar pretty high IMO. Like to think the soul of my future black SS is in lansing somewhere

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Old 12-19-2012, 07:17 PM   #90
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I think its great for the brand. Oshawa had its time and a business made a business decision. Theres definitely a different essence of a U.S. made Camaro. Theyle get another line or something at Oshawa. No worries there. I fin the typical North of 49 whining and media making it sound like the plants closing or something hilarious. Dont pay attention to the crying up here. Just keep the bar high on the next gen and all will be good. Its was born an American car, it was just in foster care for 19 years lol.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:51 PM   #91

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If the build quality of the Cadillacs are good in Lansing I don't see why anyone would assume the 2015 Camaro assembly would be "less" as quality as the other RWD cars there.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:55 PM   #92

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Does it really matter were it's built? I'm more worried about what it's going to look like and how it's going to perform.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:32 PM   #93
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I hope but am pretty sure the states side folks will do a great job building them just like our friends in Canada do.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:38 PM   #94
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Does it really matter were it's built? I'm more worried about what it's going to look like and how it's going to perform.
But where it's built is the hot topic of the day! For now...we're just assuming it'll look hot, and perform awesome.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:53 PM   #95
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My 5th Gen rocks. I'll be ready for next Gen in about 5 years or so. Until then, Let's enjoy the very well Canadian build Camaro5.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:05 PM   #96

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I have always said...time and time again...that...American Pony cars should always be made on American soil. Build the Sonics in Canada...by the way Sonic is made by Chevy...right?
I suspect this is do to the Right to Work issue. GM has been trying to get away from unions for years.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:09 PM   #97

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This will really add vitality to the Detroit area now. When they begin making them there GM will sell 2,000,000,0000,000 camaros a year!
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:10 PM   #98
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Originally Posted by RPO F55 View Post
To those of us in the industry, this and more moves like it will likely be the norm amongst the big three.

No offense meant towards the fine workers at Oshawa and the high-quality products they produce - they are victims of the economic situation there.

However, the recent CAW contract did nothing to address and indeed actually worsened the disparity of labor costs between Canada and the U.S..

To be specific, Canada is now the highest priced country to produce autos in. Given the CAW's inability to grasp this, (coupled with Ford's quick capitulation to the CAW's demands) the result produced a contract with the big three that did nothing to alleviate this.

To see the exodus start from Canada to the U.S. as well as other, lower cost areas is only natural and expected. A company can't absorb noncompetitive labor costs out of a goodwill intent - you have to go where the costs are more reasonable.

The companies that are involved would certainly not admit this, but the CAW have only theirself to blame for forcing such an unrealistic contract on the big three.
Too true. Happened here before with Goodyear and Boeing to friends and family who refused to believe in the truth and instead put their future in the unions hands.
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