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Old 03-18-2012, 12:48 PM   #126
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6th Gen should bring back T-tops! I am in love with my 2011 2ss but still miss the T-tops my 82 Trans am had
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Old 03-18-2012, 01:27 PM   #127
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Old 03-18-2012, 02:41 PM   #128
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I think that it is a very good thing to have a V6 model, but I'd like to see something that distinguishes it from the V8s. Not much, but something...
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:15 AM   #129
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Basing the design on the 2nd Gen would make my decision to buy or not a confident NO.
There is nothing appealing about how that car looks to me.
And why does the car have to have a whole new redesign so soon after bringing it back?

It's nice to know they realize they have a good thing going, and not wanting to screw it up.
I'm just not sure if the current camaro is the beginning of good design at Chevy or good luck. I just hope they don't stray too far from the current look because its almost perfect.
And to be honest I don't share the same confidence that some of you have.
The camaro and the CTS V coupe are the only two cars out of everything that GM makes across all their brands that appeal to me.

So I really hope the gen 6 design is evolutionary based on the gen 5. Constantly completely redesigning cars is not a good thing for the name plate. And if they screw up the look, nothing else will even matter. It's the single most important feature of any car.
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:28 AM   #130
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What GM really needs to keep in mind is that ford is going to come out swinging

just like they are doing with this upcoming Shelby GT500.

GM is at a handicap because they can't make the Camaro faster and more powerful without also upgrading the vette. While Ford has just there one car to worry about.

Just the same, if GM doesnt come out the gate with 500 hp for the SS, I dare say they will be behind Ford.
I agree, GM made this very mistake back in 1986 & 87 with the Buick Grand National. It beat the Corvette and Camaro 0-60 and quarter mile. This is why they ceased production of the G-body GN for 1988 and went with the front wheel drive platform a year early but stayed with the G-body Monte Carlo SS through 1988 before going to the front wheel drive Chevy in 1989. Not that there was any comparison to the GN and Monte SS other than the build platform, it was GM's way of spanking Buicks peepee for building a car that spanked their Flag Ship Corvettes butt!
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:28 AM   #131
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Basing the design on the 2nd Gen would make my decision to buy or not a confident NO.
There is nothing appealing about how that car looks to me.
And why does the car have to have a whole new redesign so soon after bringing it back?

It's nice to know they realize they have a good thing going, and not wanting to screw it up.
I'm just not sure if the current camaro is the beginning of good design at Chevy or good luck. I just hope they don't stray too far from the current look because its almost perfect.
And to be honest I don't share the same confidence that some of you have.
The camaro and the CTS V coupe are the only two cars out of everything that GM makes across all their brands that appeal to me.

So I really hope the gen 6 design is evolutionary based on the gen 5. Constantly completely redesigning cars is not a good thing for the name plate. And if they screw up the look, nothing else will even matter. It's the single most important feature of any car.
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:35 AM   #132
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I think that it is a very good thing to have a V6 model, but I'd like to see something that distinguishes it from the V8s. Not much, but something...
Don't understand why people ask for this.
I think the current way they did it was the best choice. Very minimal subtle visual differences. The people who care, can see the difference. Everybody else, it all looks the same and I'm pretty sure that helps sales.
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:51 AM   #133
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Was it strange that he said something like: "He didn't mention it, but the 2015 Mustang has the potential to surpass the Camaro"? Didn't Mustang always have the potential to surpass the Camaro? Does he know something about the 2015 Mustang that would make it surpass the Camaro? GM needs to make sure that doesn't happen if at all possible.
Only thing I can think of is the fact the new mustang will be an all new mustang design, not based on a retro car and modern in every way. Something that the mustang actually needs cuz the current design has been around for a while and the mustang people want something new.

Not so much needed for the camaro cuz the current design is the new design and is still fresh. So I hope they don't feel they have to do this just because ford is. And this has the potential to be just as huge a failure for ford as a well as as a success with a newer look. The main difference being if the new mustang visually isn't a hit, it won't be the death of the brand. If the the new camaro design stinks, u can guarantee it will kill the brand.
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Old 03-19-2012, 02:10 AM   #134
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What GM really needs to keep in mind is that ford is going to come out swinging

just like they are doing with this upcoming Shelby GT500.

GM is at a handicap because they can't make the Camaro faster and more powerful without also upgrading the vette. While Ford has just there one car to worry about.

Just the same, if GM doesnt come out the gate with 500 hp for the SS, I dare say they will be behind Ford.

Ford definately is coming out swinging, full blaze. And I think that's a great thing.

I do agree with Chevy being at a handicap because of the vette. But that handicap is self inflicted.
There is no reason they can't take a negative and turn it into a positive.
Where does it say that the vette has to be the top dog in every way?
That it allways has to be significantly faster than everything else?
That it has to be sole bearer of the company flagship.

Why can't you have two flagships?

Why can't the camaro brand and vette stand together as equals?

The only reason anyone has is the camaro would cannibalize vette sales.

I say so what.

It's better to have something you own eat some of your sales, than to have someone else like ford do it. And any company that refuses to do this generally starts to lag behind and get stuck in one place.

Doesn't the camaro outsell the vette anyway? Sure it's a lot cheaper. But even if you cut the camaro sales in half, isn't it still more than the vette?

I vote for the camaro to be the unofficial flagship for Chevy.
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Old 03-19-2012, 05:20 AM   #135
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Honestly I've been saying it & ill keep saying it.. GM would be retarded if they were to make a second gen look a like! Just MAKE YOUR OWN DESIGN!! You did the retro 69 Camaro look for bringing the Camaro back. & it worked... But now you move on & make a new style Camaro. You don't keep redoing older generation Camaros. That's just plain stupid. You don't see Ford making retro Mustangs of each 1st & 2nd generations...
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Old 03-19-2012, 08:55 AM   #136
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My thoughts are they most likely will stick with a model close to this one maby a little smaller for less weight. I don't really think they will go with the remake of the second gen.
I don't under stand why everyone complains about the visiblity at first its bad but after driving for like an hour u get used to it. (If an 18 year old can do it so can most others.)
My feeling is you have to give up a little bit somewhere with sports cars and that usually means giving up a little comfort.

I just hope they are gonna make a 6th gen zl1 cause they are very sexy.
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:55 AM   #137
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This would do it....

Go complete retro, '69 Camaro in pro touring style.

Keep the traditional V-8, no AFM, at least 5.7L. Direct injection and a variable cam timing to improve mpgs. 3400ish lbs. SS version with the big V8. A V-6 version for the economy segment... More 1st gen size.

I'd bet if they went really retro, all the way toward a '69 like this, 100,000 + in sales volume easily.



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Old 03-19-2012, 11:06 AM   #138
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...And if they screw up the look, nothing else will even matter. It's the single most important feature of any car.
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Don't understand why people ask for this.
I think the current way they did it was the best choice. Very minimal subtle visual differences. The people who care, can see the difference. Everybody else, it all looks the same and I'm pretty sure that helps sales.
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:13 AM   #139
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More 6th Gen Camaro Rumors.

All possibilities....

http://www.lsxtv.com/news/gm-at-a-cr...camaro-design/
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:19 AM   #140
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I don't think this article really says much of anything that we didn't already know.
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:24 AM   #142
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I heard a rumor the 6th gen will have a flux capacitor :party0048:
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:28 AM   #143
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I think the articles today on the 2013 Mustang tells us a lot more than anything today about what needs to happen to the 2013 Camaro.

* Minor facelift changes for refresh
* Need the 1LE option on the SS for more track improvements and HP jump on the 6.2
* Seat upgrades and less interior plastic
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:46 AM   #144
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Lighten it up! You don't have to increase the horsepower if you lighten the overall weight.

Improve the interior. Better supportive seats, get rid some of the cheap plastic parts. Do some cool stuff like being able to select the color of the ambient lighting, etc.

Use SS suspension & braking on all models.

GET A DECENT CONVERTIBLE TOP.

Incorporate some more of the 1st gen design cues. Hideaway headlights would be killer.

Make a Z/28. Use Carbon fiber in it.
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Old 03-19-2012, 12:38 PM   #145
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The most popular years for collectors are not also the same years the Camaro sold the best.

Demand on the auction block is not the same as demand in the local dealer, as none of the people buying an older Camaro for an investment are going to buy a new car that just looks like it. And that's the trick - more people are buying the 1st gen Camaros as an investment, not a DD, which is why the price is where it is.

I'll not lie and say I wouldn't wholly support a 2nd gen styling, as in all honesty there is more room to make the car aerodynamic while still meeting safety and crash regulations. On the flipside, with the original body lines there'd be less room for rear seating.

About the only thing I'll predict is that the next Camaro will have a split-style bumper to match the Chevy car front fascia designs. In the same way that regardless what Audi, Acura, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Toyota, or Porsche you are looking at in the current line, you can see similarities and influences which tie the car to the others in the lineup.

Plus, I'd hazard the opinion that a full-height grille ala the Sonic could allow for better airflow capability, where instead of relatively wide but short intake...it would be taller and incorporate some of the design elements they've messed with on the ZL1 as far as engine cooling and whatnot.

All that said, I really love my Camaro, and probably won't be in the market for another new car again ever, so I am happy and content regardless of what they do with the 6th gen.
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The most popular years for collectors are not also the same years the Camaro sold the best.

Demand on the auction block is not the same as demand in the local dealer, as none of the people buying an older Camaro for an investment are going to buy a new car that just looks like it. And that's the trick - more people are buying the 1st gen Camaros as an investment, not a DD, which is why the price is where it is.

I'll not lie and say I wouldn't wholly support a 2nd gen styling, as in all honesty there is more room to make the car aerodynamic while still meeting safety and crash regulations. On the flipside, with the original body lines there'd be less room for rear seating.

About the only thing I'll predict is that the next Camaro will have a split-style bumper to match the Chevy car front fascia designs. In the same way that regardless what Audi, Acura, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Toyota, or Porsche you are looking at in the current line, you can see similarities and influences which tie the car to the others in the lineup.

Plus, I'd hazard the opinion that a full-height grille ala the Sonic could allow for better airflow capability, where instead of relatively wide but short intake...it would be taller and incorporate some of the design elements they've messed with on the ZL1 as far as engine cooling and whatnot.

All that said, I really love my Camaro, and probably won't be in the market for another new car again ever, so I am happy and content regardless of what they do with the 6th gen.
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Please don't follow the Gens. If they do, they will stop production at gen 8.

I say move forward with what we already have.

For me, I never plan on selling my Gen5.
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Old 03-19-2012, 10:01 PM   #148
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What about mixing the old with the new... 2010 C5 with a 1969 fascia. Thoughts?
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Plz no just keep it at what it is and just go lighter. I like the style.
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Old 03-20-2012, 11:36 AM   #150
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Personally, I prefer the style as is too. I thought the mix of new and old was intereting though.
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