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Old 03-15-2012, 12:52 PM   #18
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Where are all the designers from Pontiac. In my opinion they are the only ones that can take something as successful as the Gen 5 and one up it.
Really? You'd take designers that failed to keep a defunct company's designs current and marketable and let them destroy a successful design? I could see the Camaro sales plummeting soon afterwards. Now give the Camaro team (which is or was a Cadillac team by the way) a chance to do a TransAm, now your talking.
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Old 03-15-2012, 12:53 PM   #19
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Losing weight without losing size should be on the table I think. As for late 2015, thats wonderful news since mine will be paid for by then!!! The second gen is a beautiful car but, GM should make modern improvments on the car that is here and now!
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Old 03-15-2012, 12:55 PM   #20
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going to be hard to make a better looking car than the 5th Gen...
This would do it....

Go complete retro, '69 Camaro in pro touring style.

Keep the traditional V-8, no AFM, at least 5.7L. Direct injection and a variable cam timing to improve mpgs. 3400ish lbs. SS version with the big V8. A V-6 version for the economy segment... More 1st gen size.

I'd bet if they went really retro, all the way toward a '69 like this, 100,000 + in sales volume easily.

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Old 03-15-2012, 12:59 PM   #21
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I could care less what a Mustang does...I like the Camaro and that is what I bought and would buy again. I do like Russell's thought of a total retro....1st Gens are just Bad Assed
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:02 PM   #22
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I don't think so ....I like it for then but not for the future , the pic 2 posts above....
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:07 PM   #23
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I think if they do a really nice design of the 2nd gen should look pretty sweet! Or a redesign of the 5th gen, but that would be hard to make it look any better. They might just screw that up.

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Old 03-15-2012, 01:08 PM   #24
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2nd Gen styling would be pretty interesting. I don't know how they could improve upon the style of the 5th, because I think it looks so good along side a 1st Gen, so maybe the progression should be the 2nd, or maybe even a 3rd Gen!

Honestly - I'm thinking its going to be really difficult to be a better looking car than the current car. There are only two angles that I don't particularly find as appealing as every other angle on the car. I think Mr. O' addressed probably the biggest complain with the 5th Gen already, and it seems like they're already headed in the right direction, given the platform it sounds like they're working off of.

All I know is - the current generation is about as perfect as I could reasonably expect. I hope the 6th can follow in it's footsteps. I don't know how it could appeal to me more, but I know that the 5th Gen is the generation I've been waiting for. I hope the same can be said for the 6th I have faith
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:14 PM   #25
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good read.

2015 is when my loan is up.. maybe its a sign lol
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:17 PM   #26
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:19 PM   #27
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This would do it....

Go complete retro, '69 Camaro in pro touring style.

Keep the traditional V-8, no AFM, at least 5.7L. Direct injection and a variable cam timing to improve mpgs. 3400ish lbs. SS version with the big V8. A V-6 version for the economy segment... More 1st gen size.

I'd bet if they went really retro, all the way toward a '69 like this, 100,000 + in sales volume easily.


As much as I love the '69, (That '69 will always be the BEST looking Camaro ever made, period !) a lighter 5th gen and a 10-15% scaled down in overall size (ATS's size) with the current power offering will be another success for GM. The improvement for the interior doesn't required much IMO, just a little better material and slightly rearranged. The new ATS's interior is beautiful but I wouldn't want it in the Camaro. My only complaint with the 5th gen is the WEIGHT. Bring that weight down and it's golden for me.
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:19 PM   #28
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Well, I read somewhere, that the challenger will be retired and that they'll bring back the barricuda. It would be amazing if chevy ended the camaro and brought back the SS chevelle from the 67-69 era or even a retro 1970 chevelle. I know they have a malibu and theyre not going to bring that back.

My take on it, is get ready for a 2nd gen 1970 camaro retro to be the 6th edition. IF they make a 7th gen, I think it'll be totally revamped because even though the early 80s camaros were decent, GM will not be using that body style. I mean, the muscle car era was form 67-73. So Id think it'd be a total make over for a new camaro.
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:34 PM   #29
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Im being selfish and hope that the change isnt too drastic since I am getting my car in 2012, I want it to still look good when the 2015 comes out lol, you 2010 guys had an extra 2 years with your cars than I will.
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:36 PM   #30
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I think GM should poll this site for ideas and maybe even do a design contest. I'm working on a contest for Porsche right now - grand prize is 20k or a one year lease of a 911.
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:37 PM   #31
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all they have to do is make it lighter, bit more powerful, spruce up the interorir materials and most importantly just have to refresh the current 5th gen design. Make it a little more bold, a little more cut. Doesnt need much. All they have to do is what Ford did with the Mustang, not a drastic change


ANYWAYS, all we know is that this current design is just like the 69, everyone is still going to be in love with it even 40 years down the line.
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:38 PM   #32
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going to be hard to make a better looking car than the 5th Gen...
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That. Better in other ways, yes.
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:43 PM   #33
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The most retro car of the three is the least selling one.

BUT, this comment from the comments section made me laugh me ass off.

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Forget basing it on an old car. I can't stand all that retro crap. If I wanted a 1967 Camaro I'd buy one. I don't want my new one to look old. This is the 2000's, get with it GM.
What a moron. Apperently he didn't read much of the article. 'Get with it' , uh, hey dummy, I'm thinking over a third of the market is pretty damn 'with it'.
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:46 PM   #34
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What GM really needs to keep in mind is that ford is going to come out swinging

just like they are doing with this upcoming Shelby GT500.

GM is at a handicap because they can't make the Camaro faster and more powerful without also upgrading the vette. While Ford has just there one car to worry about.

Just the same, if GM doesnt come out the gate with 500 hp for the SS, I dare say they will be behind Ford.
I don't think horsepower needs to go any higher. The lighter weight will help with acceleration. With the new platform horsepower could actually decrease and still maintain acceptable performance. They need to concentrate on fuel mileage and handling and if they can do it with a V-8 it will be a home run.
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