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Old 07-28-2011, 01:22 PM   #126
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GM always takes two years to fix things in a model, 2012 will fix things from 2010 (and 2011), Remember the 2004 Impala SS, 2006 was perfect, and they cancelled it soon after.
Camaro will improve over time and go on different platforms, at least we probably will not have what Ford did with the Mustang years ago when they put it on the MaveriK(?) frame.
I would love to have a 2.0l turbo with DSG 6 spd. transmission like VW and Audi have, lighter weight and maybe 2.5l turbo. Had a 2007 VW EOS and older Passat with that engine and with EOS got 35+ mpg on highway and good performance, of course I must add that the EOS was sold to my son to buy the Camaro.
Final point, we have to change things in Washington, MPG keeps going up, no-one wants the small cars, we will not be able to buy Camaro's in the future, if we would drill for our own oil, we would have plenty, just like natural gas seems to be found in the Eastern states, now no shortage.
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Old 07-28-2011, 02:28 PM   #127
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Yup, V8s will be available - but be ready to pay. Pretty much like how it is now.
Reminds me when I ordered my '88 Chevy pickup, ext. cab/long bed. It costs $750 to upgrade from the 305 to the 350. I thought that was highway robbery 23 years ago. By the way this pickup was a game changer in the pickup market at the time just like the Gen5 is now in the pony car market.
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Old 07-28-2011, 03:03 PM   #128
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The day that Chevrolet puts a Turbo 4 in a Newer Generation Camaro is the day that I never buy another American Car. That also being said if the Camaro is changed to a Turbo 6 the same idea applies to me.

I'm fine if they keep the economy version with a V6 or whatever but don't get rid of the V8. A Camaro without a V8 is like sex without the woman IMHO.
well i guess you'll be on a skateboard because the foreign cars aren't going to be any different. Besides if you're not buying the 4 i don't know how it affects you.
Better start writing your congressman about that new 62 mpg cafe standard coming.
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:15 PM   #129
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If a top of the line camaro or corvette gets a v6 then they can kiss their sales goodbye.
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:40 PM   #130
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If a top of the line camaro or corvette gets a v6 then they can kiss their sales goodbye.


They will have V8s.
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Old 07-29-2011, 12:41 AM   #131
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The sheer fact that no one's even seen a single spy photo of a test mule or even a sketch of a 6th Generation Camaro yet leads me to believe that 2014/15 is VERY optimistic to have a completely restyled and retooled car rolling off assembly lines.

How long did it take from the time we first started seeing concept drawings of the current car until the first 2010's actually started making it to dealerships? It was a LONG time... 4 or 5 years minimum I'm thinking.

I might be wrong, but I think if there was really going to be an all new Camaro in 2-3 years we'd already be seeing pictures of it all over the 'net.
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Old 07-29-2011, 01:40 AM   #132
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that was different. you don't usually see a car that long before hand. Heck the Caddy ATS will come out before that and nobody has seen it either.
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Old 07-29-2011, 07:55 AM   #133
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Old 07-29-2011, 08:15 AM   #134
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^^^^

That's not so bad ...
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Old 07-29-2011, 08:28 AM   #135
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Dont like it. Looks like a plain jane Camaro and RX8 got bored one day and had sex.
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Old 07-29-2011, 08:34 AM   #136
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wasn't this the newer concept for the Impala? I had a 2007 Impala SS... the FWD set up completely killed it it was not fun to drive at all.
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Old 07-29-2011, 08:38 AM   #137
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The sheer fact that no one's even seen a single spy photo of a test mule or even a sketch of a 6th Generation Camaro yet leads me to believe that 2014/15 is VERY optimistic to have a completely restyled and retooled car rolling off assembly lines.

How long did it take from the time we first started seeing concept drawings of the current car until the first 2010's actually started making it to dealerships? It was a LONG time... 4 or 5 years minimum I'm thinking.

I might be wrong, but I think if there was really going to be an all new Camaro in 2-3 years we'd already be seeing pictures of it all over the 'net.
We got teased for a long time on the Gen5 because there was no Gen4 to buy and no money to complete the Gen5. It's all marketing. Why would you start showing sketches of a Gen6 when your selling 100,000 a year? The Gen6 will be under the wraps until the next Mustang comes out and sales of the Gen5 go down the tank........
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We got teased for a long time on the Gen5 because there was no Gen4 to buy and no money to complete the Gen5. It's all marketing. Why would you start showing sketches of a Gen6 when your selling 100,000 a year? The Gen6 will be under the wraps until the next Mustang comes out and sales of the Gen5 go down the tank........
One more point, have you seen any pictures or solid information on the 2014 Mustang ??? Sales of the current model are good enough to not want buyers to wait for the next model. I'm sure in the year prior all sorts information will be leaked out.
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We got teased for a long time on the Gen5 because there was no Gen4 to buy and no money to complete the Gen5. It's all marketing. Why would you start showing sketches of a Gen6 when your selling 100,000 a year? The Gen6 will be under the wraps until the next Mustang comes out and sales of the Gen5 go down the tank........
Bingo...

A lot of you were spoiled by the 5th gen's launch. Don't expect to see any early concept sketches released straight from GM for the 6th gen.
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Old 07-29-2011, 09:27 AM   #140
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The Gen6 will be under the wraps until the next Mustang comes out and sales of the Gen5 go down the tank........

Exactly. And I'm betting that's gonna be a lot farther into the future than 2014.
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Exactly. And I'm betting that's gonna be a lot farther into the future than 2014.
I really hope you are right. But just remember there was no Camaro built from 2003 to 2009. Obviously there was a lot of pent up demand. I think the monthly sales numbers this winter will be a good indication of how sales will go over the next couple of years.
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Old 07-31-2011, 12:38 PM   #142
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They will have V8s.
Might want to put some ice on that....

Well, considering some of the comments in here it sure seems that some folks wouldn't mind not having a v8 and going with a FI 6cly. or even a 4-banger. Want good is a musclecar with less than 8 cylinders?

Hell, if we're going to follow their reasoning, why not finally ink the Rotary Corvette Deal. Hmmm... and it could be hidden somewhere in the new debt deal so as to not raise any eyebrows until it is ready for production!
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Old 07-31-2011, 04:43 PM   #143
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Offer me a turbocharged *anything* from corporate GM and I'm all over it.

But,

Make it at least a six cylinder engine. Turbo Camaro, AKA "SSX", do I see another Buick GN car-like creature?

Absolutely.

Hint to Corvette: You're gonna need a turbo....and don't forget, the very first Corvette was in fact a six cylinder.

The playing field was tilted when GM put the 3.8L turbocharged intercooled engine in the lineup...if you can remember, it was the fastest US production car in those years (86-87) and yep, even quicker than the treasured 'Vette.

Do it again GM - c'mon, do it again.

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Old 07-31-2011, 04:56 PM   #144
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Old 08-01-2011, 10:06 PM   #145
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My dealer at the dealership said that people who live up north would get their cars first and the further south you live the later you will get it. I live all the way south texas!
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Old 08-01-2011, 10:09 PM   #146
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My dealer at the dealership said that people who live up north would get their cars first and the further south you live the later you will get it. I live all the way south texas!
I don't understand?
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Old 08-01-2011, 10:10 PM   #147
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My dealer at the dealership said that people who live up north would get their cars first and the further south you live the later you will get it. I live all the way south texas!
There's no reason to believe you idiot dealer on this. Allotment is based on availability and previous sales. If your dealer has no Camaros coming, it's because they suck at selling Camaros.
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I don't understand?
Maybe he is talking about shipment... like if someone in MI ordered the same time as he did...the truck would drop his car off before they would drop his off.
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Old 08-01-2011, 10:12 PM   #149
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ok he told me Chevy would distribute the 2012 Camaro starting in the Northern states and work their way down. Eventually us down in the South would get them l8er than everyone else. Not sure how accurate that is.
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