2019 Camaro Available with 7 speed Manual and Stays with the 8 Speed Auto?

BahamaTodd · 01-16-2018, 08:13 PM

CARB published the 2019 certification for what should be the LT1. The Camaro and Corvette are listed, and the M6, M7, and A8 are listed for the Camaro. This could also mean the LT1 Camaro won't be getting the A10. Nothing is guaranteed with CARB certifications. They are sometimes superseded with updates. But the Camaro is now certified for the M7.

https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad...6d2_l3-160.pdf

For comparison, this is the 2018 CARB ceritifcation showing only the M6 and A8:
https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad...6d2_l3-160.pdf

WhyUMad1LE · 01-16-2018, 09:34 PM

They would be better served to keep the 6 speed manual and add the 10 speed auto. I haven't seen many people asking for another overdrive in the manual.

vtirocz · 01-16-2018, 09:39 PM

Interesting. Thanks for posting!

OMEN · 01-16-2018, 09:45 PM

hopefully we get the A10 so that i can trade mine for it

devnull · 01-16-2018, 09:57 PM

I have a Z51 vette with a M7 transmission

6 gears were enough, the 7th really is marketing fluff. I agree that they would be better served putting the A10 and M6 in

Nothing wrong with the M7, just not needed

camaro5 · 01-16-2018, 10:49 PM

GM isn't going to leak the info via carb.

Look for the A10 at least in the SS, if not the entire 2019 Camaro line.

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Sledgehammer70 · 01-17-2018, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BahamaTodd

CARB published the 2019 certification for what should be the LT1. The Camaro and Corvette are listed, and the M6, M7, and A8 are listed for the Camaro. This could also mean the LT1 Camaro won't be getting the A10. Nothing is guaranteed with CARB certifications. They are sometimes superseded with updates. But the Camaro is now certified for the M7.

https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad...6d2_l3-160.pdf

For comparison, this is the 2018 CARB ceritifcation showing only the M6 and A8:
https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad...6d2_l3-160.pdf

Starting to think the Z/28 is a pipe dream and a stripped down track beast Manual ZL1 might be coming with a M7. Maybe they are steering clear of the Z/28 moniker as they simply do not have a N/A motor that they want to use....

ZR1 motor with M7 manual in a Camaro ZL1 uber track edition car...

samurai · 01-17-2018, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

Starting to think the Z/28 is a pipe dream and a stripped down track beast Manual ZL1 might be coming with a M7. Maybe they are steering clear of the Z/28 moniker as they simply do not have a N/A motor that they want to use....

ZR1 motor with M7 manual in a Camaro ZL1 uber track edition car...

This would pretty much fit the spied ZL1-based mule. I'm pretty sure the Z/28 will be like every highest-performance-model and only release in the last 1-2 years of the 6th gen, so it should still be a bit away atm

WhyUMad1LE · 01-17-2018, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

Starting to think the Z/28 is a pipe dream and a stripped down track beast Manual ZL1 might be coming with a M7. Maybe they are steering clear of the Z/28 moniker as they simply do not have a N/A motor that they want to use....

ZR1 motor with M7 manual in a Camaro ZL1 uber track edition car...

1) This document is for the LT1 engine. If it was for all engines it would include the A10.
2) How would a 7 speed manual improve track performance?

Biscuit.fr · 01-17-2018, 06:33 AM

2) may be with shorter ratio in the first 4 or 5 gears
And mpg improvement with the 6-7...

travislambert · 01-17-2018, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biscuit.fr

2) may be with shorter ratio in the first 4 or 5 gears
And mpg improvement with the 6-7...

The extra gear is only an overdrive gear. Both the M6 and M7 will always have a 1:1 ratio in forth, so these transmissions for all intents and purposes are equivalent in the first 4 gears.

Bhobbs · 01-17-2018, 09:06 AM

Pretty sure the M7 doesn’t fit the Alpha trans tunnel, which is why no alpha cars have it.

SuperSound · 01-17-2018, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Pretty sure the M7 doesn’t fit the Alpha trans tunnel, which is why no alpha cars have it.

Agreed that was the reason it wasn't included in any Alpha car. A refresh certainly isn't going to fix that problem.

KingLT1 · 01-17-2018, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travislambert

The extra gear is only an overdrive gear. Both the M6 and M7 will always have a 1:1 ratio in forth, so these transmissions for all intents and purposes are equivalent in the first 4 gears.

Right but the extra overdrive allows for much more aggressive gearing. Most M6 cars came with 3.42 or 3.73 depending on tire height and they really need 4.10 or 4.30 for better shift extension and keep the engine in it's power. The M7 allows this and keeps RPMs down while interstate cruising.

01-16-2018, 08:13 PM	#1
BahamaTodd Drives: 08 Accord V6/M6 / 04 Canyon Z71 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Palm Beach, FL Posts: 1,078	2019 Camaro Available with 7 speed Manual and Stays with the 8 Speed Auto? CARB published the 2019 certification for what should be the LT1. The Camaro and Corvette are listed, and the M6, M7, and A8 are listed for the Camaro. This could also mean the LT1 Camaro won't be getting the A10. Nothing is guaranteed with CARB certifications. They are sometimes superseded with updates. But the Camaro is now certified for the M7. https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad...6d2_l3-160.pdf For comparison, this is the 2018 CARB ceritifcation showing only the M6 and A8: https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad...6d2_l3-160.pdf Attached Images

01-16-2018, 09:39 PM	#3
vtirocz Drives: 2017 Camaro 1SS M6 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Indy Posts: 2,460	Interesting. Thanks for posting! __________________ 2017 Camaro 1SS, M6, Hurst shifter, Hyper Blue, NPP, Gray Split Spoke Wheels Best 1/4 Mile: 12.24 @ 115.9 mph

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01-17-2018, 09:06 AM	#12
Bhobbs Drives: 2015 SS 1LE Red Hot, 1970 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chino, CA Posts: 6,989	Pretty sure the M7 doesn’t fit the Alpha trans tunnel, which is why no alpha cars have it. __________________

01-16-2018, 09:34 PM	#2
WhyUMad1LE Drives: 17 SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 1,920	They would be better served to keep the 6 speed manual and add the 10 speed auto. I haven't seen many people asking for another overdrive in the manual.

01-16-2018, 09:57 PM	#5
devnull Scientific negotiator Drives: 2019 Grand Sport Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Forsyth, GA Posts: 873	I have a Z51 vette with a M7 transmission 6 gears were enough, the 7th really is marketing fluff. I agree that they would be better served putting the A10 and M6 in Nothing wrong with the M7, just not needed

01-17-2018, 06:33 AM	#10
Biscuit.fr Drives: Red hot ZL1 A10 2017 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: MS Back to France (29) Posts: 804	2) may be with shorter ratio in the first 4 or 5 gears And mpg improvement with the 6-7...

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