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Chuckster · 06-24-2012, 03:39 PM

I stop by dealers to check out the tops on both new and used Camaro Verts every chance I get. Up until finding this red SS in a dealer's new car inventory, I haven't found much that concerned me. Do you think it came from the factory this way, or has the dealership done the enhancement?

95birdible · 06-24-2012, 06:05 PM

That looks like nothing I have ever seen. My first 2012 had a crap top. The replacement had a different fabric. And my second 2012 is totally different. Did you happen to get the year or VIN off of it?

spikess581 · 06-24-2012, 07:44 PM

That piece is supposed to be tucked inside and that 5th bow is on it's way out.

Chuckster · 06-24-2012, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 95birdible

That looks like nothing I have ever seen. My first 2012 had a crap top. The replacement had a different fabric. And my second 2012 is totally different. Did you happen to get the year or VIN off of it?

This is a new 2012. Hard to believe that a dealer would put this into their inventory looking like this. VIN is 2G1FT3DW7C9129308

95birdible · 06-24-2012, 09:06 PM

It is an early build. Probably around last September early October. Doesn't have the fix in it. Stay away from that one.

Rudy9929 · 06-25-2012, 01:06 AM

That is the exact same issue I have on my convertible (minus the 5th bow issue). The weatherstipping that is sticking out (triangular piece) pushes the top away from the body of the vehicle leaving a 1" gap. It binds as the top goes up and down. The dealership tried to repair it, then replaced it nothing fixed it. So they tried to center top on vehicle only causing other issues, I now have that triangular piece sticking out, air noise, water leaking in the passenger seat, and a pin hole. Chevy Engineering team has told my dealer that there is no fix. I asked my dealership what my next step was...they told me to call Chevy Customer assistance and start a claim. That's been a joke.

cactuseater · 06-25-2012, 01:53 AM

RUN !!

Chevrolet Customer Svc · 06-25-2012, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudy9929

That is the exact same issue I have on my convertible (minus the 5th bow issue). The weatherstipping that is sticking out (triangular piece) pushes the top away from the body of the vehicle leaving a 1" gap. It binds as the top goes up and down. The dealership tried to repair it, then replaced it nothing fixed it. So they tried to center top on vehicle only causing other issues, I now have that triangular piece sticking out, air noise, water leaking in the passenger seat, and a pin hole. Chevy Engineering team has told my dealer that there is no fix. I asked my dealership what my next step was...they told me to call Chevy Customer assistance and start a claim. That's been a joke.

I am sorry to hear about this! If you could please PM me with any information, including your case number with Chevrolet Customer Assistance, I will be able to see if there are any options available to you.

Brandon
Chevrolet Customer Service

dpartch · 06-26-2012, 11:15 PM

Mine had the exact same problem. No TBS so they refused to touch it. I have changed dealers. The problem is caused by the top down stop not being adjusted correctly. You may notice the top when down is not even. One side down the other up. Also there are 2 stops. It is the lower stop not the top stop.

When not adjusted the top folds wrong.

To fix it. First the stop screw needs to be adjusted to raise the top when down. Then you need to push in the weather striping that has been pushed out back in.

After that has been done you need to retrain the top when it folds. With the top down crab the bottom flap that folds wrong and pull so it folds out instead of under the top.

Let is sit in the hot sun for a day or 2 so the plastic reforms. You may need to do this for couple of days.

That should fix it.

Michael Rophone · 06-27-2012, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by spikess581

...that 5th bow is on it's way out.

I thought the 5th bow was above the rear window. Is the 5th bow the one that runs around the rear lid?

IL-Tracker · 06-27-2012, 06:12 AM

5th bow is beneath the rear window, runs along the trunk deck lid.

When the 5th bow is bent or broken, the rear gasket/seal is really noticeable and protrudes out along the deck lid and the fabric will sag somewhat around the rear window. (Unfortunately, learned all that first hand)

Michael Rophone · 06-27-2012, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by IL-Tracker

5th bow is beneath the rear window, runs along the trunk deck lid.

Thanks for the info. Mine looks OK, but I'll still not put the top down.

I noticed that not putting the top down does not prevent rear-window defogger wires or bows or cables from rubbing from within (while driving).

I guess when driving with the top up still wears on the fabric, it's time to say "bye-bye" to my big blue baby (with its original top).

cactuseater · 06-27-2012, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Rophone

Thanks for the info. Mine looks OK, but I'll still not put the top down.

I noticed that not putting the top down does not prevent rear-window defogger wires or bows or cables from rubbing from within (while driving).

I guess when driving with the top up still wears on the fabric, it's time to say "bye-bye" to my big blue baby (with its original top).

Oh man sorry to hear that. Get that thing to a dealer bud. It's gotta get fixed right.

Michael Rophone · 06-28-2012, 03:40 AM

What breaks the 5th Bow?
Is it from putting the top up and down...or does it fail just by driving over bumpy roads?

06-24-2012, 03:39 PM	#1
Chuckster Drives: 2012 2LT Convertible Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: NC Posts: 35 View My Garage	From the factory or top enhancement? I stop by dealers to check out the tops on both new and used Camaro Verts every chance I get. Up until finding this red SS in a dealer's new car inventory, I haven't found much that concerned me. Do you think it came from the factory this way, or has the dealership done the enhancement? Attached Images __________________ *It's Got To Be a Vert!!!!* 1

06-24-2012, 06:05 PM	#2
95birdible Drives: 2012 1SS Camaro Convertible Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Blaine, MN Posts: 1,674	That looks like nothing I have ever seen. My first 2012 had a crap top. The replacement had a different fabric. And my second 2012 is totally different. Did you happen to get the year or VIN off of it? __________________ 2012 1SS Crystal Red Convertible "Cherry Bomb" Winner of the #NameThatCamaro Spring Special Edition "Green Flash"

06-24-2012, 09:06 PM	#5
95birdible Drives: 2012 1SS Camaro Convertible Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Blaine, MN Posts: 1,674	It is an early build. Probably around last September early October. Doesn't have the fix in it. Stay away from that one. __________________ 2012 1SS Crystal Red Convertible "Cherry Bomb" Winner of the #NameThatCamaro Spring Special Edition "Green Flash"

06-25-2012, 01:06 AM	#6
Rudy9929 Drives: 2012 Camaro 1LT Convertible Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: KY Posts: 2	That is the exact same issue I have on my convertible (minus the 5th bow issue). The weatherstipping that is sticking out (triangular piece) pushes the top away from the body of the vehicle leaving a 1" gap. It binds as the top goes up and down. The dealership tried to repair it, then replaced it nothing fixed it. So they tried to center top on vehicle only causing other issues, I now have that triangular piece sticking out, air noise, water leaking in the passenger seat, and a pin hole. Chevy Engineering team has told my dealer that there is no fix. I asked my dealership what my next step was...they told me to call Chevy Customer assistance and start a claim. That's been a joke. Last edited by Rudy9929; 06-25-2012 at 01:07 AM. Reason: edit for 5th bow

06-28-2012, 03:40 AM	#14
Michael Rophone Drives: Yes Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: PA Posts: 646	Cause? What breaks the 5th Bow? Is it from putting the top up and down...or does it fail just by driving over bumpy roads?

06-24-2012, 07:44 PM	#3
spikess581 Drives: IOM2SSconvertible,64 malibu,04fxdwg Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bristol Pa Posts: 356	That piece is supposed to be tucked inside and that 5th bow is on it's way out.

06-25-2012, 01:53 AM	#7
cactuseater Drives: . Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA Posts: 856	RUN !!

06-26-2012, 11:15 PM	#9
dpartch Drives: 2012 Camaro Convertable rs/ss Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: omaha Posts: 41	Mine had the exact same problem. No TBS so they refused to touch it. I have changed dealers. The problem is caused by the top down stop not being adjusted correctly. You may notice the top when down is not even. One side down the other up. Also there are 2 stops. It is the lower stop not the top stop. When not adjusted the top folds wrong. To fix it. First the stop screw needs to be adjusted to raise the top when down. Then you need to push in the weather striping that has been pushed out back in. After that has been done you need to retrain the top when it folds. With the top down crab the bottom flap that folds wrong and pull so it folds out instead of under the top. Let is sit in the hot sun for a day or 2 so the plastic reforms. You may need to do this for couple of days. That should fix it.

06-27-2012, 06:12 AM	#11
IL-Tracker That's why......... Drives: Traded a 2011 2SS/RS A6 Blk Vert Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 118	5th bow is beneath the rear window, runs along the trunk deck lid. When the 5th bow is bent or broken, the rear gasket/seal is really noticeable and protrudes out along the deck lid and the fabric will sag somewhat around the rear window. (Unfortunately, learned all that first hand)