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PDXSSCE · 04-18-2018, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sherob

Right... meanwhile Camry sales are up and killing Accord sales. Those evil SUV's don't seem to be hurting them.

It's well documented that Camry has been outselling Accord because of the better lease options.

SecondZ28 · 04-18-2018, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sherob

Hmmm... that trend shows it going up...

2016/17 posted LOWER sales than 2014/15

Long term trend
473k (2007) > 387k (2017) - Camry - this is called trending down
172k (2007) < 407k (2017) - RAV4 - this is called trending up

So yes, SUV sales are pushing midsize sedans lower.

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Originally Posted by sherob

and really since it's redesign hitting dealers lots in October, it's been trending up.

2018 Jan Camry sales 24,638
2018 Feb Camry sales 30,865
2018 Mar Camry sales 35,264

http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales.../toyota-camry/

Look at your own reference. That's just a typical seasonal increase. In fact, March 2014,15,16,17 all had higher monthly sales numbers than March 2018

rontammy0 · 04-18-2018, 04:39 PM

People are looking for the most bang for the buck. If 2 competitors offer similiar vehicles consumers will chose the one with the best incentives. I find Honda has been guilty of being a bit ignorant of this in the past.

BULLITT65 · 04-19-2018, 01:13 AM

Brilliant , so Chevrolet is going after the Camry/Accord market with there new redesign.

So who is marketing to the past Camaro owners looking to upgrade?

(Hello - Mustang, and Challenger)

AzItaliaSS · 04-19-2018, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BULLITT65

Brilliant , so Chevrolet is going after the Camry/Accord market with there new redesign.

So who is marketing to the past Camaro owners looking to upgrade?

(Hello - Mustang, and Challenger)

No Idea at this point! That is me , a past owner, lurking for new muscle, but meh with this new banana curve front end. Hood has good edges leading to more edges(hopes are up) yes homerun?? Nope! Foul ball for some reason the edges stop, go away and blend into a flat curved banana grill? What? With the so called "flow tie" sunk way down the grill on the flat banana.

Im just lost at trying to guess the direction.. I can only imagine how all the LE elite are turning over running for the hills with the introduction of a 2.0 to the wonderful elite group of superior suspension and vinyl sticker hoods. Cant wait to read those threads lol

I can help but think this "refresh" will further distance themselves in the sales world from the competition. The fan boys claimed victory before the first GM twin rolled off the lot against the Tacoma and look how that score ended up. But I am puzzled by who is on the other side of the field now, cause this thing is not going to win any prospective buyers against the other muscle, and may go the other direction fast..

I pray something else is coming, or aftermarket grills, etc..I'd hate to give up on the Camaro but, ugh, C'mon

Royal Tiger · 04-19-2018, 05:48 AM

The restyled Camry looks better than the Accord, but the Honda has been winning the head to heads in magazines. For small SUV’s the new CR-V looks better than the RAV4 which needs a redesign inside & out.

As for the Camaro, I see further dwindling sales as they make it uglier and more expensive. I could never buy a Rustang, so if Fiat can’t unload Dodge and they actually make a new Challenger that might be an option. Honestly, at higher price points the domestics aren’t a good buy. An AWD Audi or BMW are faster and have way better interiors. The M5 leaves a new ZL-1 in the dust in the 1/4, and fits 4 adults. It’s why I hope they make an AWD CTS-V, but again the interior looks like it belongs in a $40k Buick and it’s too small in the rear seat area.

Theloots · 04-19-2018, 06:46 AM

A bit too much lower grill .... reminds me of the ugly Lexus. Dag !! : (

PDXSSCE · 04-19-2018, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Royal Tiger

The restyled Camry looks better than the Accord...

Hell no.

Royal Tiger · 04-19-2018, 02:34 PM

These are the two pics I looked at:

qcman · 04-19-2018, 02:55 PM

I think Chevy needs to ditch the bunker look (high belt and low roofline) on the newer Camaro or hopefully the gen 7. It looked good on our Gen 5 but seems weird to me on the new styling somehow.

PDXSSCE · 04-19-2018, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Royal Tiger

These are the two pics I looked at:

I still say hello no... but it's a matter of personal preference.

Silver14 · 04-19-2018, 04:12 PM

http://www.lsxmag.com/news/the-2019-...t-in-the-wild/

BULLITT65 · 04-19-2018, 04:20 PM

I think there is more pics of Hondas and Camry's in this thread than the Camaros!

I wonder if they are laughing about the new Camry/accord wanna be on the Import sites?

PACamaro85 · 04-19-2018, 07:26 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2wT_ZjjmfUE

Anyone seen this video? Looks like a 2019 SS 1LE imo.

Didn't look too bad in white.

04-19-2018, 06:46 AM	#287
Theloots Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Palmetto, FL Posts: 99	Nah A bit too much lower grill .... reminds me of the ugly Lexus. Dag !! : ( __________________ Texas Speed Long tubes, highflow cats, Borla Cat back S-Type, Spectre Cold Air Intake, HP tuner tune

04-19-2018, 02:34 PM	#289
Royal Tiger Account Suspended Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Convertible Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 3,873	These are the two pics I looked at: Attached Images

04-18-2018, 04:39 PM	#283
rontammy0 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 2SS/ RS INFERNO ORANGE L99 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Alliston Ontario Canada Posts: 9,057 View My Garage	People are looking for the most bang for the buck. If 2 competitors offer similiar vehicles consumers will chose the one with the best incentives. I find Honda has been guilty of being a bit ignorant of this in the past.

04-19-2018, 01:13 AM	#284
BULLITT65 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Manual, Aqua Blue Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: So Cal Posts: 76	Brilliant , so Chevrolet is going after the Camry/Accord market with there new redesign. So who is marketing to the past Camaro owners looking to upgrade? (Hello - Mustang, and Challenger)

04-19-2018, 05:48 AM	#286
Royal Tiger Account Suspended Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Convertible Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 3,873	The restyled Camry looks better than the Accord, but the Honda has been winning the head to heads in magazines. For small SUV’s the new CR-V looks better than the RAV4 which needs a redesign inside & out. As for the Camaro, I see further dwindling sales as they make it uglier and more expensive. I could never buy a Rustang, so if Fiat can’t unload Dodge and they actually make a new Challenger that might be an option. Honestly, at higher price points the domestics aren’t a good buy. An AWD Audi or BMW are faster and have way better interiors. The M5 leaves a new ZL-1 in the dust in the 1/4, and fits 4 adults. It’s why I hope they make an AWD CTS-V, but again the interior looks like it belongs in a $40k Buick and it’s too small in the rear seat area.

04-19-2018, 02:55 PM	#290
qcman Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS RDP Tuned L99 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada eh? Posts: 1,889	I think Chevy needs to ditch the bunker look (high belt and low roofline) on the newer Camaro or hopefully the gen 7. It looked good on our Gen 5 but seems weird to me on the new styling somehow.

04-19-2018, 04:12 PM	#292
Silver14 Drives: 2014 SIM 2SS Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 925	http://www.lsxmag.com/news/the-2019-...t-in-the-wild/

04-19-2018, 04:20 PM	#293
BULLITT65 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Manual, Aqua Blue Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: So Cal Posts: 76	I think there is more pics of Hondas and Camry's in this thread than the Camaros! I wonder if they are laughing about the new Camry/accord wanna be on the Import sites?

04-19-2018, 07:26 PM	#294
PACamaro85 Drives: 2014 + 2023 Camaro 1SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Toronto Posts: 68	https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2wT_ZjjmfUE Anyone seen this video? Looks like a 2019 SS 1LE imo. Didn't look too bad in white.