Test drove SS - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

shatokin · 06-09-2013, 11:44 AM

I bought my wife a 2012 2LT/RS last year. She did not want a manual transmission. When it had about 800 miles on it, I switched out the stock mufflers with Magnaflow axle back exhaust and added a full K&N intake. I rarely drive it but yesterday I decided to take it to the dealer and test drive a 2013 SS with the possibility of trading up. I mashed on the throttle of her car all the way to the dealer so I would be able to make a comparison with the SS. We test drove the SS, again an automatic, for about 15-20 miles and it was way cool, but it was not the huge difference I was expecting. I could feel the low RPM torque from the standing start and it was certainly faster, but not enough that I had to have it (not my car anyway). The same salesman who sold us the 2LT said to wait until they get a ZL1 in stock and he will email me. Just wanted your thoughts on this, and also, what could an axle back exhaust and intake possibly add to the v6 for power?

mc_acoustic · 06-09-2013, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by shatokin

I bought my wife a 2012 2LT/RS last year. She did not want a manual transmission. When it had about 800 miles on it, I switched out the stock mufflers with Magnaflow axle back exhaust and added a full K&N intake. I rarely drive it but yesterday I decided to take it to the dealer and test drive a 2013 SS with the possibility of trading up. I mashed on the throttle of her car all the way to the dealer so I would be able to make a comparison with the SS. We test drove the SS, again an automatic, for about 15-20 miles and it was way cool, but it was not the huge difference I was expecting. I could feel the low RPM torque from the standing start and it was certainly faster, but not enough that I had to have it (not my car anyway). The same salesman who sold us the 2LT said to wait until they get a ZL1 in stock and he will email me. Just wanted your thoughts on this, and also, what could an axle back exhaust and intake possibly add to the v6 for power?

Im glad you posted this.... Im going to test out an ss in the future to see the difference aswell...

Axle back wont add anything to my knowledge, but the cold air intake can add 15-25 hp.

CamaroTom · 06-09-2013, 11:49 AM

Probably had 87 octane in the tank running less horsepower. All dealers are guilty of it.

wally mayfield · 06-09-2013, 11:51 AM

15-25 hp gain?? really?? at what speed?? is this from k&n?? cause they say their oil filters add horsepower...

ff815 · 06-09-2013, 11:54 AM

I started with a '12 V6 MT (3 clutches in 2800 miles), got an '12 SS Auto, and now have a '13 SS with a short throw - big difference. At about 3000 miles, fuse pull and a CAI intake, that L99 really woke up. I've got about 700 miles on the new one so I'm still breaking it in, but so far, I can feel the difference in the torque.

Fiveg56 · 06-09-2013, 12:08 PM

I have driven both an SS and LT model for hundreds of miles each. The SS is a completely different car, and anyone who says different it lying to themselves. That doesn’t make the V6 a bad car.

mc_acoustic · 06-09-2013, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wally mayfield

15-25 hp gain?? really?? at what speed?? is this from k&n?? cause they say their oil filters add horsepower...

http://www.phastekperformance.com/K-...-69-4519tp.htm

I said it CAN add 15-25 hp.

xkloid · 06-09-2013, 12:17 PM

Without the fuse pull I actually hated the automatic 2SS when I traded up. With the fuse pull and the Range full time V8 plugged into the OBD port, the 2SS is a different animal.

45thCAMARO 2SS/RS · 06-09-2013, 12:19 PM

I'm sorry but no way that it's that small of a difference, now I'm not here to start a war but u did test drive an auto n they r great too but until u do a fuse pull and a tune they feel luggish I know cause I had one too, but then I yet drove a LS3 n within a few hrs I drove away in my LS3

wally mayfield · 06-09-2013, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mc_acoustic

http://www.phastekperformance.com/K-...-69-4519tp.htm

I said it CAN add 15-25 hp.

i know, thats why i asks at what speed...k&n is in the business of relieving you of your cash..ive seen actual dyno tests of their air cleaners on super bikes and the k&ns lost the bikes some horsepower...also your link is to a sales add..

they will tell you anything, a salesman at a k&n tent told me their oil filters add horsepower too...

mikeyg36 · 06-09-2013, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 1LEMayhem

Probably had 87 octane in the tank running less horsepower. All dealers are guilty of it.

This. It needs a fuse pull after adding 93, and then you will see a difference.

wally mayfield · 06-09-2013, 12:24 PM

what is this "fuse pull" you speak of??

mikeyg36 · 06-09-2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wally mayfield

what is this "fuse pull" you speak of??

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38964
Here you go!

jrpimp00 · 06-09-2013, 12:33 PM

autos have 400hp and manuals have 426. I have a 2010 SSRS manual and its a beast compared to a V6. Do a fuse pull cause all these dealers put 87 in the tank. It will make a defference in the feeling

06-09-2013, 11:44 AM	#1
shatokin Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: USA Posts: 1	Test drove SS I bought my wife a 2012 2LT/RS last year. She did not want a manual transmission. When it had about 800 miles on it, I switched out the stock mufflers with Magnaflow axle back exhaust and added a full K&N intake. I rarely drive it but yesterday I decided to take it to the dealer and test drive a 2013 SS with the possibility of trading up. I mashed on the throttle of her car all the way to the dealer so I would be able to make a comparison with the SS. We test drove the SS, again an automatic, for about 15-20 miles and it was way cool, but it was not the huge difference I was expecting. I could feel the low RPM torque from the standing start and it was certainly faster, but not enough that I had to have it (not my car anyway). The same salesman who sold us the 2LT said to wait until they get a ZL1 in stock and he will email me. Just wanted your thoughts on this, and also, what could an axle back exhaust and intake possibly add to the v6 for power?

06-09-2013, 11:49 AM	#3
CamaroTom Drives: 1/70 2013 BRM 2SS RS 1LE NPP NAV Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Parrish, Florida Posts: 1,082	Probably had 87 octane in the tank running less horsepower. All dealers are guilty of it. __________________

06-09-2013, 11:51 AM	#4
wally mayfield Drives: 2013 2SS 6M Join Date: May 2013 Location: eastern high sierra Posts: 893	15-25 hp gain?? really?? at what speed?? is this from k&n?? cause they say their oil filters add horsepower... __________________ Strut tower brace(GM), CAI, Blade Spoiler, ZL1 wheels and tires, Heritage grill, Dual mode exhaust, and thats it, no more..except for the lowering springs..Ok Hotchkis springs were delivered today, thats it..

06-09-2013, 11:54 AM	#5
ff815 Drives: 2013 SS AGM Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Atlanta Posts: 125	I started with a '12 V6 MT (3 clutches in 2800 miles), got an '12 SS Auto, and now have a '13 SS with a short throw - big difference. At about 3000 miles, fuse pull and a CAI intake, that L99 really woke up. I've got about 700 miles on the new one so I'm still breaking it in, but so far, I can feel the difference in the torque. __________________ 2012 V6 M6 2012 SS A6 2013 SS M6

06-09-2013, 12:17 PM	#8
xkloid ITZ COOL Drives: 2012 IBM 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Milwaukee, USA Posts: 314 View My Garage	Without the fuse pull I actually hated the automatic 2SS when I traded up. With the fuse pull and the Range full time V8 plugged into the OBD port, the 2SS is a different animal. __________________

06-09-2013, 12:08 PM	#6
Fiveg56 Drives: - Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: MN Posts: 1,654 View My Garage	I have driven both an SS and LT model for hundreds of miles each. The SS is a completely different car, and anyone who says different it lying to themselves. That doesn’t make the V6 a bad car.

06-09-2013, 12:19 PM	#9
45thCAMARO 2SS/RS xquest91x Drives: 2012 45th Anniversary 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 535 View My Garage	I'm sorry but no way that it's that small of a difference, now I'm not here to start a war but u did test drive an auto n they r great too but until u do a fuse pull and a tune they feel luggish I know cause I had one too, but then I yet drove a LS3 n within a few hrs I drove away in my LS3

06-09-2013, 12:24 PM	#12
wally mayfield Drives: 2013 2SS 6M Join Date: May 2013 Location: eastern high sierra Posts: 893	what is this "fuse pull" you speak of?? __________________ Strut tower brace(GM), CAI, Blade Spoiler, ZL1 wheels and tires, Heritage grill, Dual mode exhaust, and thats it, no more..except for the lowering springs..Ok Hotchkis springs were delivered today, thats it..

06-09-2013, 12:33 PM	#14
jrpimp00 Drives: '10 Black/IOM Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 530	autos have 400hp and manuals have 426. I have a 2010 SSRS manual and its a beast compared to a V6. Do a fuse pull cause all these dealers put 87 in the tank. It will make a defference in the feeling __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Black/IOM //// 1998 Pontiac Trans AM 819 RWHP @ 12 PSI (Turbo)