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Old 12-03-2012, 06:54 PM   #85
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1) A ton of people in this thread have already stated that they're fine with a 2.0T Camaro. Again, it's not like they're eliminating the V8. The 2.0T will be the base engine.
2) A 2.0T Alpha-based Camaro would perform as well as or perhaps BETTER than an LFX Zeta-based Camaro.
3) Target markets evolve. Considering what Ford and the rest of the competition is doing, the 2.0T is right in line with expectations.
Amen.

Glad to see not everyone here is a knucklehead lol. Gives me a great big laugh when I see people saying the 5th gen will be the pinnacle of Camaro performance and its all downhill from here.

The only thing I see stopping the 6th gen from kicking major performance butt is if GM simply never makes another generation of Camaro.....due to a failing economy or something very bad like that.
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:57 PM   #86
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Sooo...if you want to save gas why do you buy muscle cars in the first place?
Because we have the technology to do both.
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:57 PM   #87
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...lol...a four banger Camaro...gotta get suzy-secretary and the ricer crowd on board for the greater good of the Camaro's future. I'm glad it will be a sixth gen and not associated with the fifth...too bad, all in all...The 2010 SS Camaros put these cars on the map, not a six or a four-banger, and made them something special...Next gen, not so much...

...Just go along with it and say the four cylinder is "awesome", "a great idea", etc....The advance propaganda machine and those with a vested interest in seeing it built won't allow you to think otherwise...lol...
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:17 PM   #88
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I figure they have enough vehicles in their fleet to meet consumer demand.

Molestation comes to mind when I think about a 4 banger in a 6th gen.
You could throw one in a veyron....but why:bangdesk:
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:34 PM   #89
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My worry will be they turn the Camaro as we 5th owners know it, into a 3/4 size wanna be. I love the body style of this car and fear they will shrink it way to much to lose that weight. I dont know maybe i am old school , but a 4 banger in a Camaro just doesn't seem right , save it for the other cars. keep the V-6 and V-8.. going to a 4cyl, is not needed .And please dont make it a mini-Camaro. ugghh
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:10 PM   #90
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I would not be interested in a 4 banger Camaro. Even if my car were a DD, (it's not) I would want a V8. I had a 3rd gen with a 4 pop in it and that lasted about 6 months had to trade for a RS with the 305. I don't care if they put out a twin turbo 500 hp 4 cylinder, no thanks I would pass.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:12 PM   #91
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Now that I think about it maybe that 3rd gen was a 6 banger, either way it was a DAWG!!
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:20 PM   #92
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I don't know GM's plans, but if I were planning GM's future development, I would build a base 2.0T, a 3.6L V6, a 3.6T V6 (Eco-Boost-fighter to be labelled as a traditional Z28 or alternative SS), a 6.2L SS V8, and a 6.2L V8 supercharged all as engine options. At least 3 should be available initially, including the 4-banger, the V6, and the lower V8 model with each new addition coming out within months of one another. Additional suspension and trim packages should be available as special editions.

I know you'll hate my SS argument from above, so I'm simply pointing out that the SS trim is not inherent to V8s, and it represents performance. If a car performs in the Chevrolet line, give it the SS moniker, especially if it beats up the mainstream competition.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:38 PM   #93
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I don't know GM's plans, but if I were planning GM's future development, I would build a base 2.0T, a 3.6L V6, a 3.6T V6 (Eco-Boost-fighter to be labelled as a traditional Z28 or alternative SS), a 6.2L SS V8, and a 6.2L V8 supercharged all as engine options. At least 3 should be available initially, including the 4-banger, the V6, and the lower V8 model with each new addition coming out within months of one another. Additional suspension and trim packages should be available as special editions.

I know you'll hate my SS argument from above, so I'm simply pointing out that the SS trim is not inherent to V8s, and it represents performance. If a car performs in the Chevrolet line, give it the SS moniker, especially if it beats up the mainstream competition.
I wouldn't mind that if the power went like this:
2.0T 275-300 hp (with a GMPP tune being an option)
3.6L 320-340 hp
3.6T 370-400 hp
5.5L V8 with 430hp and a track package
6.2 with 475hp as a drag option
6.2L S/C 580-620 hp

Those with weight reductions could be rather impressive, and you could run 3 engines.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:56 PM   #94
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I wouldn't mind that if the power went like this:
2.0T 275-300 hp (with a GMPP tune being an option)
3.6L 320-340 hp
3.6T 370-400 hp
5.5L V8 with 430hp and a track package
6.2 with 475hp as a drag option
6.2L S/C 580-620 hp

Those with weight reductions could be rather impressive, and you could run 3 engines.
The beauty of this scenario is that you have some serious tuner platforms for everyone's budget.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:59 PM   #95
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The Solstice 2.0 turbo was a blast to drive. I got the NA version since I did not trust the turbo for longevity. I am a flight instructor, and fly far better turbos in the planes. They are not reliable. After talking to some owners who have had them for awhile, seems the 2.0 is pretty good. If they get rid of the fat, it might be a good alternative.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:02 PM   #96
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I have 60k on mine with 22psi tune since day one with no issues.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:04 PM   #97
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Because we have the technology to do both.
That's called utilizing a manual or getting the L99... a Muscle car doesn't come with a V6 IMO, unless my Monte is a muscle car?
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:25 PM   #98
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That's called utilizing a manual or getting the L99... a Muscle car doesn't come with a V6 IMO, unless my Monte is a muscle car?
Ever heard of a Grand National? A lot of people will argue that its one of the best muscle cars.
How about a 89 TTA?

Also a Camaro isn't technicaly a muscle car. Those are cars like a Chevelle, Impala SS,Buick GN GSX, etc.
The fbodies were meant to fast and handle better than those cars.
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