08-05-2019, 10:58 PM | #15 |
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Raise the seating position, fix wacky interior ergonomics, extra hp for 1le.
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08-06-2019, 12:20 AM | #16 |
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Hybrid power
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08-06-2019, 01:44 AM | #17 |
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Talk about wishing for unicorns to lead you to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. I've tried for years to do just what the OP suggested, but it's invariably slammed as being either 'dated', or 'it looks like a... whatever older car they think it looks like. Comments like "the 80's or 90's have called and they want their style back" etc. make it really difficult to even explore new ideas.
People say they don't want retro anymore, but the moment you do something that isn't retro, they start complaining and suggesting you add...retro styling features. The Camaro crowd is ridiculously difficult to design for, because the image people have in their minds when they think Camaro is so heavily entrenched in the retro style, it's almost impossible to move them out of it. I'd love to see a modern coupe that looks and feels more like a pony car rather than a pavement ripping muscle car. The enthusiasts want the pavement ripper however, but they're such a small segment of the market, it's not enough to keep the car alive it seems. For the Camaro to survive, it has to appeal to a wider market; a much wider market. That's going to mean a friendlier vibe and look like the original had; less of the deadly, aggressive, intimidating look the enthusiast crowd wants. Not too long ago in this forum I tried all kinds of things trying to get away from retro; just didn't fly. Good luck with your premise, but I'm afraid it's probably too late for it to make any difference for GM. They don't know what to do with the Camaro, and it seems they don't want to worry about it anymore. I'm going to watch this thread though, and see what any of you come up with as it's always interesting to follow these kinds of exercises. I may even try and come up with something again myself.
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08-06-2019, 04:36 AM | #18 |
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Another vote adding PHEV, hybrid, and full-electric options in 7 gen Camaro.
I don't really mind Camaro keeping retro look. I will like to see gen 7 gets like 3 gen and 4 gen fastback, large trunk. Since C8 Corvette switches to mid-engine and having seen gen 6 useless rear seat, I think 7 gen Camaro should have big rear trunk.
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08-06-2019, 06:02 AM | #19 |
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First off the Camaro design team must decide if is they are going to keep the 4 seat or 2 seat design. What we have now is a bastardized 4 seat that is not usable. My feeling is to go back to having a useable rear seat. With that, a lower belt line and possibly a hatch back would help with the visibility. You can't have a design with two seats, as that would compete with the Corvette. It must be muscular but, keep away from the common euro look. Smooth out the lines and keep out the angular straight body lines.
Lastly the consumer must be able to have more options to control their price.
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08-06-2019, 06:36 AM | #20 |
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GM is not going to invest Billions of dollars trying to keep a car alive that's not selling. A redesign to sell less than 5000 cars a month is bad business decision.
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08-06-2019, 08:18 AM | #21 |
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Well GM did the investment for the Corvette. Read the stats on the Corvette.
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08-06-2019, 11:35 AM | #22 |
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1. Ditch retro. It's long overdue for something new. The trick is to keep the lineage clear without becoming a previous generation.
2. lower belt line, better visibility, more practical back seat yet keep the weight down and the appearance aggressive. 3. Incorporate some kind of electric assist into the V8 trims to boost torque & efficiency. Get the SS's in a combined 500-550hp and the ZL1 variants upwards of 750.
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08-06-2019, 12:46 PM | #23 |
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The difference is that the Corvette is GM's halo car.
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08-06-2019, 12:56 PM | #24 |
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08-06-2019, 02:00 PM | #25 |
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I think they should just drop the V8
I know that will make alot of hard core fans mad but its a feature that not many people care. Replace it with a V6 hybrid kinda like the NSX. |
08-06-2019, 02:05 PM | #26 |
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This. Couple that with the fact that a large number of the people on a forum that is dedicated to the car, bitch and complain about the current model like there's no tomorrow.....there's not an overwhelming amount of positivity with the car right now.
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08-06-2019, 02:16 PM | #27 |
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Starting price for the base Corvette is more than all but a loaded up ZL1. Way different business case. The Corvette was engineered and tooled for that volume and it will be wildly profitable At lower volumes than Camaro.
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