[travislambert]

Originally Posted by Speedofsound

What's it say?

Edit. Maybe it's in the video, I'll check.

When clutch protection is triggered, it's supposed to say

"REDUCED PERFORMANCE - REDUCE CLUTCH USE" or "REDUCED ENGINE POWER"

[Speedofsound]

Originally Posted by travislambert

When clutch protection is triggered, it's supposed to say

"REDUCED PERFORMANCE - REDUCE CLUTCH USE" or "REDUCED ENGINE POWER"

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Just saw the video, pretty bad.

[IOMike]

Originally Posted by travislambert

No disrespect, but it's always the guys who don't own a '17 M6 ZL1 who claim the car is fine. You'll never get 100% of people to agree on anything, but practically everyone I know whose taken this car to the strip agrees there is a problem. So if you haven't driven the '17 M6 ZL1 at the drag strip please refrain from assuming the driver is the problem. If you have ran a mid 11 with this car I'd love to speak with you. I don't know anyone other than Cal Webster who has done it, and he'll be the first to tell you the car has a software problem.

And I don't put much stock into the magazine review times. I can't think of any who achieved GM's published times anyway, but these journalists have a stong interest in telling everyone how great cars are. If they don't, GM won't be providing many more cars to review.

Like I said, I'm not claiming the '17 M6 ZL1 is incapable of running a good 1/4 mile time. Obviously a few are going to get hero runs, but this car should be able to pull off a high 11 without a pro driver. Hell, the A10 has made it into the 10s. The transmission is good, but not that good. The M6 has a problem....trust me. I have the data to prove it.

I've been working with GM since June. They have agreed there is a problem (never in writing though), they're just dragging their feet on the fix.

GMs published times always get beat by private owners. The only manufacture that I'm aware of that boasts times that are hard to reproduce is FCA.

Seems like you should make a thread in the zl1 forum about having issues getting times that are faster than a SS in a ZL1. Obviously there is a hardware issue or driver issue as it has an extra 200hp. Not sure why you're posting about it in a Mustang thread though.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by Steph93lx

Lol DA was far from super around +300 they have made a total of 6 pass before it start to rain. They were leaving the line around 1500 rpm because of bad traction with the 3.55 gearing and crazy short first gear of the A10. I bet the 3.15 gear car will be faster of the line in street tire.

Only 4 bone stock 2016+ A8 ss have been faster in the list and those are in mineshaft air like -1000 DA.

Not bad for a little 5.0L on her first outting!!

I can't wait to see the times this new GT can run with a set of DRs out back and negative DA, 11:70s or quicker?

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by newmoon

I can't wait to see the times this new GT can run with a set of DRs out back and negative DA, 11:70s or quicker?

For sure

There’s a vid of a guy at New England or Cecil in negative in an ss tire only going 11.59@120.9 iirc

[Steph93lx]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

For sure

There’s a vid of a guy at New England or Cecil in negative in an ss tire only going 11.59@120.9 iirc

I don't know if it's the same one but a guy here put on YouTube a run of 11.59 @121 in like -2000 DA. In fact a guy I know drive this car later the same day and ran 11.57 using paddle shift.
He is saying that it's all stock with drag radial but what is not saying is that he removed 2 catalytic converters and replace is stock muffler with some BMW resonator. I guessed with don't have the same interpretation of stock.

Still impressive!

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by Steph93lx

I don't know if it's the same one but a guy here put on YouTube a run of 11.59 @121 in like -2000 DA. In fact a guy I know drive this car later the same day and ran 11.57 using paddle shift.
He is saying that it's all stock with drag radial but what is not saying is that he removed 2 catalytic converters and replace is stock muffler with some BMW resonator. I guessed with don't have the same interpretation of stock.

Still impressive!

I’m not sure if it’s the same. Older guy and the car was red or that dark reddish color. I could probably find it on YouTube if I felt like it lol

It sounded stock though

I wouldn’t be surprised either way. I’m sure lots of claims we see online have more to them

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by newmoon

I can't wait to see the times this new GT can run with a set of DRs out back and negative DA, 11:70s or quicker?

Negative DA, tires and good track prep for sure 11 seconds easy.

[Steph93lx]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

I’m not sure if it’s the same. Older guy and the car was red or that dark reddish color. I could probably find it on YouTube if I felt like it lol

It sounded stock though

I wouldn’t be surprised either way. I’m sure lots of claims we see online have more to them

Yes it's the guy, Napierville dragway, Quebec no stock but close.
I list everything but you're right a lot of people any brand for that matter forget to list some mods

[assasinator]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

If we find out that this time is legit then I wonder how the Shelby guys will feel after spending crazy ADMs on their car just to have it get beaten by a GT with much less hp. And I wonder how the GT will do on the track and if Shelby sales will take a dive.

my coyote made more power by a few hp AND 50rwtq more than a new GT350 with borla mufflers only.

the dyno runs were on the same day about an hour and a half apart.


the gt350 is not anything to brag about in a drag race. Ford traded a lot of torque for a little "bragging rights power".

imagine the power and torque of a crossplane crank voodoo.

no matter. 5 liters cant compete with 6.2 liters in torque. not here to troll. ford doesnt seem to have the wisdom to raise the deck on the block .500"-.750" and stroke it to 5.5 liters. the coyote should never have been designed at 5 liters.

[assasinator]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

For sure

There’s a vid of a guy at New England or Cecil in negative in an ss tire only going 11.59@120.9 iirc

here is the deal man.....

i have a similar issue in my turbo that the new STOCK GT will run into competing with the SS in A10 form....

the GT simply cant match the horsepower disadvantage from idle to wherever, in the powerband, the gt finally does match the SS.

until i am allowed to put a real transmission in the turbo i have to wait for boost.

the GT has to wait for power. my bet is the GT is giving up 80hp from idle to 4500 or even more maybe.

AND with essentially the same power to weight ratio, the GT is going to be down a handful of MPH that is going to get worse down the track.


it is going to take modifications to get the GT into the same horsepower level off the line. a BIG stall.


ford has printed that the gt head flow is comparable to the gt350. it should respond to mods.

[SSfriendly]

Originally Posted by assasinator

here is the deal man.....

i have a similar issue in my turbo that the new STOCK GT will run into competing with the SS in A10 form....

the GT simply cant match the horsepower disadvantage from idle to wherever, in the powerband, the gt finally does match the SS.

until i am allowed to put a real transmission in the turbo i have to wait for boost.

the GT has to wait for power. my bet is the GT is giving up 80hp from idle to 4500 or even more maybe.

AND with essentially the same power to weight ratio, the GT is going to be down a handful of MPH that is going to get worse down the track.


it is going to take modifications to get the GT into the same horsepower level off the line. a BIG stall.


ford has printed that the gt head flow is comparable to the gt350. it should respond to mods.

Hmm, I didn't realize that people raced off of idle.

[Speedofsound]

Im not sure what that guy is saying, it's like he chugged a bottle of jack and came in here to post.

[SSfriendly]

Originally Posted by Speedofsound

Im not sure what that guy is saying, it's like he chugged a bottle of jack and came in here to post.

LOL.