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Said it before, and I'll say it again, but I agree with Baylor, and I feel the Camaro would do good to downsize a little, unless GM can pull off some miracle and keep it the same size AND drop 300+ lbs (yeah right).
Yes, the ATS is on a slightly smaller platform, but it IS a sedan...so I don't see any reason whatsoever why it can't be made to be coupe (Camaro). I know you all know this, but take a step back and look at the size of the 5th gen compared to the 4th gen and earlier. It is the odd ball out in terms of size and weight.....but I also feel it looks the best, but not b/c of the size. Same car but in ATS size would be fine by me. Mustang is shrinking...perhaps considerably. I don't think Camaro needs to go that small, nor would I really want it to, but it needs to stay pretty damn close to Mustang in terms of weight/power ratio and handling. How much of a fail would it be for the next "base" Mustang to weigh 3,100 to 3,200 lbs and Camaro base to weigh 3,500 lbs? It would be embarrasing. Some people just want a bigger car and don't care about the weight, and I have no issue with that. But these two cars are direct compeititors whether you may like it or not, and so whatever improvements Mustang makes (weight/power) Camaro should work to be competitive. Quote:
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Just going by comments above about the ATS being smaller than the Camaro, basically a 2+2. And I thought it was mentioned in some other threads about using the longer platform. It's probably all speculation.
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09-04-2013, 09:13 PM | #32 |
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Yup, pretty much. About the only thing that is definite is that Camaro will be on a version of the Alpha platform, beyond that, complete speculation.
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09-04-2013, 11:32 PM | #34 | |
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That concept shares a LOT with the Buick Riviera concept from a few months ago.
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10-08-2013, 02:19 PM | #35 | |
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Wheelbase (in / mm): 109.3 / 2775 Length (in / mm): 182.8 / 4643 Height (in / mm): 55.9 / 1421 Width (in / mm): 71.1 / 1805 Track (in / mm): Front: 59.5 / 1512 Rear: 60.9 / 1548 2014 Camaro WHEEL BASE 9 ft. 4.3 in. (112.3 in.) LENGTH 15 ft. 10.6 in. (190.6 in.) HEIGHT 4 ft. 6.2 in. (54.2 in.) WIDTH 6 ft. 3.5 in. (75.5 in.) FRONT TRACK 5 ft. 3.7 in. (63.7 in.) REAR TRACK 5 ft. 4.1 in. (64.1 in.) 2015 CTS Wheelbase (in / mm): 114.6 / 2911 Length (in / mm): 195.5 / 4966 Height (in / mm): 57.2 / 1454 Width (in / mm): 72.2 / 1833 Track (in / mm): Front: 61.4 / 1560 Rear: 61.7 / 1568 |
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02-19-2014, 08:00 PM | #36 | |
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Unless Ford revives a Cougar, the platform design cost per unit will always be significantly higher than GMs plan for the ATS-Camaro. Assuming Camaro sales stay competitive with Mustangs. |
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03-10-2014, 10:57 PM | #38 | |
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The top brass claim the design is EVOLUTIONARY, not REVOLUTIONARY. They gave us a heads up with the squinty eyed front for 2014. Bumblebee from Tr 4 is just a continuation. Tail lights are 2014. Haunches will be a bit different (as in TR 4) just because it's shorter. They are pretty much hiding the 2016 in plain sight. ATS Coupe (shorter than sedan) is similar in size (larger wheelbase) to a Mustang. People who think they can't make a Camaro from that auspicious start are not engineers. |
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ATS, CTS, and Camaro will be made on the same line in Lansing. I doubt there will be any similar cues in styling between them. They will only be made on the same production line.
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