2017 NFL Season Talk - Page 5

BMR Sales · 08-30-2017, 10:09 AM

What do think of the Matthew Stafford Contract?

PoorMansCamaro · 08-30-2017, 10:23 AM

Definitely over paid. Just like Derek Carr, kirk cousins, and Andrew luck.

BMR Sales · 08-30-2017, 10:46 AM

I agree, but these Owner's keep shelling out Powerball Contracts!

PoorMansCamaro · 08-30-2017, 01:34 PM

Stafford has a 5-46 record against teams finishing with a winning record. Of that he is 1-25 on the road. ouch

Kenny Camaro · 08-31-2017, 03:21 AM

Highest yards per game of any QB over 30,000 yards. Or I believe any QB period. Joe M will let me know if that's correct. Fastest to 10,000 yards. Set the NFL record for fourth quarter comebacks in a season with eight last year. Only had one 1,000 yard rusher in nine seasons. One of only five QB's to through for over 5,000 yards in a season. Never won a playoff game. All that being said, yeah he's overpaid. Be the end of his deal, it will be reasonable. Is he better than Cousins, yes. Better than Carr, yes. Better than Cutler,yes. It's all about market value and timing, and having to pay that Detroit tax also. Lions have only had one pro bowl QB in 50 years, so they are much closer with him than without him.

BMR Sales · 08-31-2017, 09:07 AM

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Wow! I read where the Browns were shopping him! Hopefully he gets to play on a Winning Team for the 1st time. I'm a long time Browns Fan and it hasn't been a happy time since Modell stole the Original Browns and took them to Baltimore!

and Haden signs with the Steelers. Great move for Pittsburgh who it seems is stacking things up for a run to the Super Bowl before Big Ben retires.

DenverTaco07 · 08-31-2017, 09:44 AM

I love watching millionaires run around and catch balls!

There's something to be said about Collegiate sports. All this money in professional sports sort of makes me want to throw up. Oh and what a gig for the owners...the taxpayers get to pay for their billion dollar stadiums - they got all us suckers giving them billions of tax dollars so that we can then pay them $200 for the worst seats in the stadium - sorry...it's all ridiculous. Seriously...Nevada tax payers giving billionaires $750 Million towards stadium...LOL, billionaires got all us suckers clammering to give them money.

I still watch the Broncos though

sherob · 08-31-2017, 09:55 AM

I watch the Broncos... watch a Texans game or two, may watch a few more now that Brock is gone.

PoorMansCamaro · 08-31-2017, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

I love watching millionaires run around and catch balls!

There's something to be said about Collegiate sports. All this money in professional sports sort of makes me want to throw up. Oh and what a gig for the owners...the taxpayers get to pay for their billion dollar stadiums - they got all us suckers giving them billions of tax dollars so that we can then pay them $200 for the worst seats in the stadium - sorry...it's all ridiculous. Seriously...Nevada tax payers giving billionaires $750 Million towards stadium...LOL, billionaires got all us suckers clammering to give them money.

I still watch the Broncos though

Technically, it's out of towners that's paying for the Las Vegas Raiders stadium. I live here and I'm not paying a dime. lol They are raising the hotel tax like 1%.

I do agree that the owners should have to pay out of pocket. I know Steven Ross, owner of the dolphins paid for the full renovation for his stadium.

PoorMansCamaro · 08-31-2017, 10:41 AM

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Highest yards per game of any QB over 30,000 yards. Or I believe any QB period. Joe M will let me know if that's correct. Fastest to 10,000 yards. Set the NFL record for fourth quarter comebacks in a season with eight last year. Only had one 1,000 yard rusher in nine seasons. One of only five QB's to through for over 5,000 yards in a season. Never won a playoff game. All that being said, yeah he's overpaid. Be the end of his deal, it will be reasonable. Is he better than Cousins, yes. Better than Carr, yes. Better than Cutler,yes. It's all about market value and timing, and having to pay that Detroit tax also. Lions have only had one pro bowl QB in 50 years, so they are much closer with him than without him.

All those stats are less impressive when he's 5-46 against winning teams. Do you think he would have walked if they offered him less money? Do you think any other team would have paid him that amount?

I agree, the team is much better with him.

BMR Sales · 08-31-2017, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

I love watching millionaires run around and catch balls!

There's something to be said about Collegiate sports. All this money in professional sports sort of makes me want to throw up. Oh and what a gig for the owners...the taxpayers get to pay for their billion dollar stadiums - they got all us suckers giving them billions of tax dollars so that we can then pay them $200 for the worst seats in the stadium - sorry...it's all ridiculous. Seriously...Nevada tax payers giving billionaires $750 Million towards stadium...LOL, billionaires got all us suckers clammering to give them money.

I still watch the Broncos though

I only watch NFL, but there is so much money in Collegiate sports especially Football. It's basically the Minor Leagues of Football, but the Players aren't supposed to be paid!

BMR Sales · 08-31-2017, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

Technically, it's out of towners that's paying for the Las Vegas Raiders stadium. I live here and I'm not paying a dime. lol They are raising the hotel tax like 1%.

I do agree that the owners should have to pay out of pocket. I know Steven Ross, owner of the dolphins paid for the full renovation for his stadium.

We have the Best Owner in the NHL - Jeff Vinik bought the Arena and pays for all the upgrades - it has been ranked the best arena in the NHL and it's 15 years old. He's also developing the whole area around the Arena with Bill Gates to the tune of +$3Billion!

Kenny Camaro · 08-31-2017, 06:56 PM

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All those stats are less impressive when he's 5-46 against winning teams. Do you think he would have walked if they offered him less money? Do you think any other team would have paid him that amount?

I agree, the team is much better with him.

Remember, Suh was with him, how much did the Dolphins pay him? I think the only record he ever set was highest fine total for a season. To answer the question, yes. Several.

PoorMansCamaro · 09-01-2017, 09:31 AM

You must really miss Suh. Not sure what he has to do with this conversation. Are you saying it's because of Suh, that the Lions went 5-46 against winning teams? As for his fines, I wouldn't know. He's been fined $0 since being with the dolphins.

He has been top 3 defensive tackle since being on Miami as well.

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DenverTaco07 Drives: 2017 SS 1LE, 2017 Volt, 2013 Pilot Join Date: May 2014 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,274	I love watching millionaires run around and catch balls! There's something to be said about Collegiate sports. All this money in professional sports sort of makes me want to throw up. Oh and what a gig for the owners...the taxpayers get to pay for their billion dollar stadiums - they got all us suckers giving them billions of tax dollars so that we can then pay them $200 for the worst seats in the stadium - sorry...it's all ridiculous. Seriously...Nevada tax payers giving billionaires $750 Million towards stadium...LOL, billionaires got all us suckers clammering to give them money. I still watch the Broncos though __________________ 2017 SS 1LE \| HBM \| Vortech V3-Si supercharger (620RWHP and 575ft lbs) \| PDR \| Black Bowties \| Illuminated Front Black Bowtie \| Illuminated Door Sills \| Smoked Tails \| vented seats mod

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PoorMansCamaro Drives: Really Slow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PA Posts: 56,955	You must really miss Suh. Not sure what he has to do with this conversation. Are you saying it's because of Suh, that the Lions went 5-46 against winning teams? As for his fines, I wouldn't know. He's been fined $0 since being with the dolphins. He has been top 3 defensive tackle since being on Miami as well. __________________

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BMR Sales Drives: Race Car Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Seffner, FL Posts: 6,226	What do think of the Matthew Stafford Contract?

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BMR Sales Drives: Race Car Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Seffner, FL Posts: 6,226	I agree, but these Owner's keep shelling out Powerball Contracts!

08-31-2017, 03:21 AM	#61
Kenny Camaro Account Suspended Drives: 2013 1LT RS Camaro Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 3,494	Highest yards per game of any QB over 30,000 yards. Or I believe any QB period. Joe M will let me know if that's correct. Fastest to 10,000 yards. Set the NFL record for fourth quarter comebacks in a season with eight last year. Only had one 1,000 yard rusher in nine seasons. One of only five QB's to through for over 5,000 yards in a season. Never won a playoff game. All that being said, yeah he's overpaid. Be the end of his deal, it will be reasonable. Is he better than Cousins, yes. Better than Carr, yes. Better than Cutler,yes. It's all about market value and timing, and having to pay that Detroit tax also. Lions have only had one pro bowl QB in 50 years, so they are much closer with him than without him.

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