03-16-2018, 05:46 PM | #29 |
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I previously owned a 2002 Camaro SS M6 modified and tuned with a heads and cam package. Manual rev-matching required and I enjoyed it. Now that I have this 2017 SS 1LE, I enjoy the automatic rev-match even better. Sometimes, if I forget to activate it, I’m quickly reminded by the lurch forward on the first downshift. I only wish it could be controlled through the infotainment system and set on or off permanently (such as you can do with other settings on the car) rather than defaulting back to “off” each time the car is turned off.
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03-16-2018, 08:08 PM | #30 |
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The only problem I have with the Rev Match is that when I try it I sometime forget to turn it off, and then we both (me and computer) do it. Or I think I have it on and neither of us (me or computer) does it.
Heel and toe rev match is second nature to me and I love to do it. Having said that, on the street, when I am not hammering the brake (like a race track) my heel and toe is not as accurate or even comfortable (it feels weird doing it at part brake pressure). The computer is much, much better at part braking blips. On track, it makes no difference. Even with the throttle delay, any brake zone long enough to require a downshift gives you more than enough time to do a big blip and nail the down shift. |
03-16-2018, 11:24 PM | #31 | ||
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LOL, it's a far cry from making the car more like an automatic. While it rev matches on upshift which to me is pointless, the only noticeable convenience is the blipping of the throttle. Hardly something I'd equate to driving an automatic. All clutch work and shifting is still up to the driver. BTW, no offence taken with any of your comments. Quote:
As for double-clutching, I and 90% of manual drivers see it as too much work. Many see it as pointless on today's transmissions. Sure, it does ensure smooth downshifts, but to me, it's a feature that better suits the track. |
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03-17-2018, 12:37 AM | #32 | |
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You said that it rev matches for upshifts? I haven't experienced that at all. Only thing mine does is blip the throttle during downshifts. Maybe I just haven't noticed it. After all, I only have 700 miles on the car. Still in winter storage. Long long winter. Ugh |
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03-17-2018, 07:52 AM | #33 | |
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----------------------------------------------------- Active Rev Match Vehicles equipped with a V8 engine and a manual transmission have Active Rev Match (ARM). ARM aids in smoother shifting by matching the engine speed to the next selected gear. By monitoring shift lever and clutch operation, ARM adjusts engine speed to match a calibrated value based on gear selection. On upshifts and downshifts, engine speed will be decreased and increased to match vehicle road speed and transmission gear position --------------------------------------------------- So glad we don't deal with winter, it would drive me nuts not being able to drive it |
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03-17-2018, 09:56 AM | #34 |
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I wish it was always on and you needed the paddle shifter to turn it off
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03-17-2018, 09:57 AM | #35 | |
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03-17-2018, 02:50 PM | #36 |
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Well today I took a long drive and decided to test the active rev matching on upshifts as well. So I forced myself to let off the gas completely when shifting and let it do its thing. Did some highway runs and few spirited launches. Boy does it make shifting smooth and effortless! Add me to list of addicts, lol.
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03-17-2018, 04:24 PM | #37 | |
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03-17-2018, 04:26 PM | #38 |
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When I first got my Camaro about two years ago, I tested the rev match feature a few times, but I did not want to become dependent on it. So for the first few months, I tried to get familiar with what was required to drive the car smoothly. I feel that you should learn to do the rev matching yourself at first for both the upshifts and downshifts.
Just to be clear, I am not talking about learning how to heel and toe downshift, as that is a more advanced skill. |
03-17-2018, 04:49 PM | #39 |
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03-17-2018, 04:53 PM | #40 | |
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3-4 Shift With Rev Matching Release Gas Pedal > Depress Clutch > Shift into 4th Gear *Don't Need To Worry About Shifting Too Slow* > Release Clutch > Smooth Shift |
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03-17-2018, 10:55 PM | #41 |
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Hmmm, I've been driving sticks since I was 15. I'm 42 now. Guess I'll just shift normally. The rev match will just make my screw ups less noticeable. Lol
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03-18-2018, 11:13 AM | #42 |
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I like the ARM. I heel and toe in my DD Buick, but it's handy to have it just do it for me in the Camaro. The delay with the drive by wire I find is what kills it (in all cars these days from what I've seen) but whatever. When I'm puttering around town in the Camaro I'll let it do it's thing. It sounds good with the NPP. Besides, the laziness is real lol
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