MSD Atomic manifold worth it or not

13BlackCamaroSS · 01-27-2018, 07:01 AM

I've been thinking about adding the MSD manifold for awhile now but just can't pull the trigger. It's hard to think that it's really worth $1100ish, plus install and tune too only get maybe 35whp at best. I haven't seen anybody with one yet to talk too them so I'm here asking for some help from those who have it already. Is it really worth the $2kish or am I better off doing something else.*

Car has headers, full exhaust, intake and TB already. Thx guys/girls

motorhead · 01-27-2018, 08:32 AM

I think something like that has a lot to do with what direction you want to take your motor mods. If you are planning a cam that intake would be a good fit. Or if you were adding NOS. The worth is really what you feel it is.

parish8 · 01-27-2018, 08:59 AM

If you do buy one you can find them cheaper. I got mine from juiced motor sports for quite a bit less than $1100.

My87z28 · 01-27-2018, 11:26 AM

A elk known member on here, Pray (Pray Performance) has done tons of testing between his stock ported intak manifold and throttle body vs the MSD intake manifold. The MSD lost torque and hp down low only to pick a couple hp above 6000rpm. He’s proven this even on a full bolt on car. His ported intake and throttle body is somewhere around $550. But you have to provide him your intake and throttle body. Honestly they are very easy to take off. There’s a couple threads on here about it. Now he has proven that if you plan is to put a cam & heads on the car and turn up the redline to 7000+, then a ported MSD intake and ported throttle body will make more power on the top end.

You can look up Pray Perfromance on Facebook.

SJFGTO · 01-27-2018, 12:30 PM

Not a great bang for the buck unless you match it with a cam change. In that event make sure it should also be ported. Unless you are chasing every last HP number, I'd pass until you swap in a cam that would compliment a ported version.

marknagy13 · 01-27-2018, 12:52 PM

A lot of people have said that you do gain some horsepower up top but lose some on the lower end of the curve.

13BlackCamaroSS · 02-04-2018, 05:17 PM

Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate the info. Sounds like it's not really worth it right now so I think I'll just add E85 kit this year and save up for either a cam or nos.

JFM-jr · 02-05-2018, 04:19 PM

You will not see anywhere near 35 wheel from an MSD in fact you won't see half of that figure on an otherwise stock motor.

KingLT1 · 02-05-2018, 08:42 PM

Have the stock stuff ported.

Snowblind · 02-05-2018, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13BlackCamaroSS

Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate the info. Sounds like it's not really worth it right now so I think I'll just add E85 kit this year and save up for either a cam or nos.

You're gonna love the e85 mod, best bang for the buck hands down.

01-27-2018, 07:01 AM	#1
13BlackCamaroSS Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: May 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 563 View My Garage	MSD Atomic manifold worth it or not I've been thinking about adding the MSD manifold for awhile now but just can't pull the trigger. It's hard to think that it's really worth $1100ish, plus install and tune too only get maybe 35whp at best. I haven't seen anybody with one yet to talk too them so I'm here asking for some help from those who have it already. Is it really worth the $2kish or am I better off doing something else.* Car has headers, full exhaust, intake and TB already. Thx guys/girls __________________ Race what you brung, Hope you brung enough 2016 2SS, NPP, Adrenaline Red Leather and Pads, 6sp, Sunroof, Black Bowties, Upgraded Wheels, 15% Tint, Kooks Headers, MBRP Exhaust, 1LE Wheels, Badging, Ported Throttle Body, Procharged, Snow Performance Stage 2 Meth Kit Coming Soon: Custom Cam, E85, Ported Heads

01-27-2018, 08:59 AM	#3
parish8 Drives: 17 SS a8 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: omaha Posts: 1,678	If you do buy one you can find them cheaper. I got mine from juiced motor sports for quite a bit less than $1100. __________________ dropped a valve in the 6.2. now running a drop in rods and piston 5.3 best et 5.83@121 with the 5.3 http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=465472

01-27-2018, 11:26 AM	#4
My87z28 Drives: 1987 Z28, 385cid, '16 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Maryland Posts: 523	A elk known member on here, Pray (Pray Performance) has done tons of testing between his stock ported intak manifold and throttle body vs the MSD intake manifold. The MSD lost torque and hp down low only to pick a couple hp above 6000rpm. He’s proven this even on a full bolt on car. His ported intake and throttle body is somewhere around $550. But you have to provide him your intake and throttle body. Honestly they are very easy to take off. There’s a couple threads on here about it. Now he has proven that if you plan is to put a cam & heads on the car and turn up the redline to 7000+, then a ported MSD intake and ported throttle body will make more power on the top end. You can look up Pray Perfromance on Facebook. __________________ 02/23/16: 1100, 03/16/16: 2500 # TGHR6N 03/16/16: 2500, 03/18/16: 3000 TPW : 4/11/16 04/8/16: built & VIN 04/11/16 - 04/28/26 : 4B00 Bayed QC hold, 04/29/16 : 4200 Rail yard '16 1SS 6M, black with jet black interior, split spoke gray machined faced wheels, and black front/rear bowtie emblems.

01-27-2018, 12:30 PM	#5
SJFGTO Oh Oh it's Friday Night! Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Nightfall Gray Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Walton Woods Posts: 1,061	Not a great bang for the buck unless you match it with a cam change. In that event make sure it should also be ported. Unless you are chasing every last HP number, I'd pass until you swap in a cam that would compliment a ported version. __________________ 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE NFG; ARH 2” headers, catless mids, ARH full exhaust, Lingenfelter 18% lower pulley, ATI Harmonic Balancer, Roto-fab CAI, EE-catch can, TM ported TB, NX Lid, BMR strut tower brace. Aeroforce dual pod interceptor gauges. Tuned by Vengeance Racing!!! 644 HP @ 6250 rpm / 689 trq @ 3660 rpm Four that wanna own me Two that wanna stone me One says she's a friend of mine...

01-27-2018, 12:52 PM	#6
marknagy13 Markoon13 Drives: Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: San Diego Posts: 853	A lot of people have said that you do gain some horsepower up top but lose some on the lower end of the curve. __________________ Making Camaro Videos Great Again! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWS...TrnPTnKAfJgouQ

01-27-2018, 08:32 AM	#2
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,850	I think something like that has a lot to do with what direction you want to take your motor mods. If you are planning a cam that intake would be a good fit. Or if you were adding NOS. The worth is really what you feel it is.

02-04-2018, 05:17 PM	#7
13BlackCamaroSS Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: May 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 563 View My Garage	Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate the info. Sounds like it's not really worth it right now so I think I'll just add E85 kit this year and save up for either a cam or nos. __________________ Race what you brung, Hope you brung enough 2016 2SS, NPP, Adrenaline Red Leather and Pads, 6sp, Sunroof, Black Bowties, Upgraded Wheels, 15% Tint, Kooks Headers, MBRP Exhaust, 1LE Wheels, Badging, Ported Throttle Body, Procharged, Snow Performance Stage 2 Meth Kit Coming Soon: Custom Cam, E85, Ported Heads

02-05-2018, 04:19 PM	#8
JFM-jr Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Suffolk Long Island Posts: 954	You will not see anywhere near 35 wheel from an MSD in fact you won't see half of that figure on an otherwise stock motor. __________________ 2016 Hyper Blue 2SS A8,NPP,Moonroof Pray ported factory intake manifold Ported TB Rotofab ARH 1 7/8 longtubes hi flow cats AFM deleted E85 11.0@124.9 11.65@118.8 pump gas,stock tune/exhaust New combo: Pray Performance Heads/cam MSD intake manifold and Circle D 3C 554/491 on E85 all work & tuning done by Pray

02-05-2018, 08:42 PM	#9
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,800	Have the stock stuff ported. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

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