Lost to stock 5.0, should I feel bad?

[mariojmoe]

Originally Posted by invaderzim

Only the last part is right. Dyno numbers are always biased from whatever site you're pulling from. In the real world the 5.0 and 6.2 put out similar numbers. Not as far off as you're making it seem. They're about dead even. Some higher some lower on any given Dyno. As for the mustang it weighs less but without the proper suspension it is known to have trouble putting the HP to the pavement. I understand people here are trying to be "humble" and "cool" but you're trying way too hard to not be biased that you're making the 5.0 out to be something it isn't. The gearing is the only real advantage a stock 5.0 has over a stock 6.2. Other than that it's all in the driver.

I've heard this before and I disagree. The 5-0 is more of a performer than any STOCK 5th gen and its not just gears. Our cars might look better and handle better but the stang is the better performer. Once mods begin its whoever has the deeper pockets.

[christianchevell]

yeah well a stang owner better have deeper pockets as he has four cams to change....lol. Really the l99 needs a tune to wake up the auto trans and ditch the throttle delay, and a better exhaust would help too.. mustangs always come factory more low flow mufflers if you listen to their exhaust for their engines which dwarf ours as they are big as the engine bay can squeeze in due to the dual over head cams. I for one love my ls3 engine.

[Squillo]

Originally Posted by Fraxum

L99s are the fastest 5th Gen Camaros at the track, except for heavily modded ZL1s.

Really? I need to heavily mod a ZL1 to beat an L99???

[Muscle Car Memories]

Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369

I didn't come here to argue. The Mustang in question makes more power than the Camaro in question, is hundreds of pounds lighter (200-400 lbs depending on trims) and is geared as well or better. The OP definitely should've lost. The 5.0's were designed for drag racing, the SS's were designed for all-around performance. If the Mustang would've lost in a straight line to 110 mph I would've pitied him.

Dude you cant make up your mind, is the Mustang 300, 350 or 400lbs lighter?

[javi05]

The GT/CS Mustang 5.0 engine remains the same delivering 420 horsepower and 390 lb.-ft. of torque. M6. The camaro has 426hp and 420 lb-ft. of torque.. and the 14ss 1le has seen to make 400 rwhp stock on the dyno.. also the 1le has 3.91 rear gear. My car weighs 3860. dont forget about the electronic steering adds a lil more hp for the 1le. all these factors might be whats making me pull on him.. it isnt by much but a win is a win and to hear some camaro's are getting smoked by stock 5.0's i dont understand it. and the only reason the L99 is quicker is because its an AUTOMATIC.... it will sit there and you just floor it.. wow so much fun huh? for us manual guys its a PITA and if you dont get it just right, its a fail.

[rontammy0]

Originally Posted by ytown87

This thread is all

And I'm at work like

HAHHAHAHAHAHAH......

[kville988]

I hate that the 5.0 is faster. the 2015 stangs have even more hp and tq and is STILL a 5.0L engine. why didn't they just do that from the beginning? we know they can. Now chevy has to upgrade the camaro to compete and probably with the same 6.2L engine. again I will wonder WHY they just didn't put that work into it before?!! Why can't chevy make a 6.2 with more hp than the 5.0. I think they do this on purpose

[ytown87]

Originally Posted by kville988

I hate that the 5.0 is faster. the 2015 stangs have even more hp and tq and is STILL a 5.0L engine. why didn't they just do that from the beginning? we know they can. Now chevy has to upgrade the camaro to compete and probably with the same 6.2L engine. again I will wonder WHY they just didn't put that work into it before?!! Why can't chevy make a 6.2 with more hp than the 5.0. I think they do this on purpose

Take that to this thread for difference in the two engines http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...hlight=5.0+6.2

If manufacturers put in everything they could decades ago, where would we be now and what would be the point of new cars? Technology develops, regulations change, new ideas in performance come out, deer eat the grass we eat the deer and the circle of life continues.

[djpelosi]

Originally Posted by Muscle Car Memories

Dude you cant make up your mind, is the Mustang 300, 350 or 400lbs lighter?

And then he's like "it has 25hp more, no wait it has 50hp more, no wait now it's 75hp more." LOL. The fact is that both of the cars, L99 or LS3, are similar. Both the L99 and LS3 run close to the same 1/4 mile times stock for stock.

Like I said, the only reasons the 5.0 wins is because of weight,gearing, and the driver.

[ChocoTaco369]

Originally Posted by invaderzim

Only the last part is right. Dyno numbers are always biased from whatever site you're pulling from. In the real world the 5.0 and 6.2 put out similar numbers. Not as far off as you're making it seem. They're about dead even. Some higher some lower on any given Dyno. As for the mustang it weighs less but without the proper suspension it is known to have trouble putting the HP to the pavement. I understand people here are trying to be "humble" and "cool" but you're trying way too hard to not be biased that you're making the 5.0 out to be something it isn't. The gearing is the only real advantage a stock 5.0 has over a stock 6.2. Other than that it's all in the driver.

Dude. Did you read? First off, the dyno numbers aren't from a forum, they're from Edmunds. The forum link was just to provide further evidence. Second, did you even read the OP? My whole point was that 5.0 manuals dyno the same as LS3 Camaros. The OP drives an L99. How much less do L99's dyno than LS3's?

50-75rwhp.

If you read the thread, you probably wouldn't have said any of this.

[ChocoTaco369]

Originally Posted by Muscle Car Memories

Dude you cant make up your mind, is the Mustang 300, 350 or 400lbs lighter?

Do you think an L99 2SS Camaro weighs the same as an LS3 1SS stripper without heated and leather seats? Camaro weighs fluctuate +/- 100 lbs based on options and transmission. The NPP option further skews the issue. Like I originally said, 200-400 lbs depending on options. It varies wildly. One thing is certain: the 5.0 manual in question is way lighter than the Camaro L99.

[kville988]

Originally Posted by ytown87

Take that to this thread for difference in the two engines http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...hlight=5.0+6.2

If manufacturers put in everything they could decades ago, where would we be now and what would be the point of new cars? Technology develops, regulations change, new ideas in performance come out, deer eat the grass we eat the deer and the circle of life continues.

understandable

[duck899]

I had a 2011 GT 5.0 and love the Camaro alot more.

[invaderzim]

Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369

Dude. Did you read? First off, the dyno numbers aren't from a forum, they're from Edmunds. The forum link was just to provide further evidence. Second, did you even read the OP? My whole point was that 5.0 manuals dyno the same as LS3 Camaros. The OP drives an L99. How much less do L99's dyno than LS3's?

50-75rwhp.

If you read the thread, you probably wouldn't have said any of this.

I read it. I just felt kinda bad for you since you're on here quoting Edmunds. You might as well be quoting Wikipedia. just seems like you needed someone to talk to.