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jordan 572 · 02-13-2009, 03:07 PM

my dads buddy brought over a new challenger with the 6.1 srt 8 in it. my dad drove it and said it was slow because their was a lot of wheel hop when you gave it a lot of gas and it started slipping. will this be true on the camaro

*radz28* · 02-13-2009, 03:11 PM

Well, if I'm not mistaken, '08s didn't have limited slips in the back. This won't happen on Camaro. The wheelhop, we've been told, has been addressed. I'm sure some of the more hardcore will get 'hop out of the car when they get a sticky tire on there but I think most of us won't have much of a problem. Aside from that, I think Camaro should only be a tick-or-two faster than the SRT8.

jordan 572 · 02-13-2009, 03:12 PM

how much faster should the maro be 0-60[guess]

greenrail · 02-13-2009, 03:13 PM

If you don't modulate your acceleration when you launch, you could suffer this problem. My thinking is that if you use the Traction COntrol , until you learn the best launch technique, you will probably avoid a lot ofthis problem.

Hopefully, a lot of the wheel hop problems seen on the GTO will be managed better with the different axle construction and TCS.

Heck if you get that bad a wheel hop, you are only frying half your tires! LOL

*radz28* · 02-13-2009, 03:27 PM

I don't see much more than a tenth or two. The power's about the same and Camaro weighs a little less. I think the six-speeds will be a great match, and it'll come down to which driver is better, and which chassis is better composed.

Blownhotrodder · 02-13-2009, 04:26 PM

Yet another reason irs blows. Usually someone comes out with a bushing kit or something else to fix the wheelhop issues with the irs equipped cars. Wheelhop is very very hard on all drivetrain components and usually leads to halfshaft failures.

detroitboy · 02-13-2009, 04:53 PM

I read a post some time ago (from Fbodfather?) that the wheel hop issues had been corrected by the use of somewhat oval shaped halfshafts. I know for a fact this subject has been brought up before and it is supposedly "officially" corrected.

kylepo · 02-13-2009, 04:57 PM

yet another reason IRS blows? must be a mustang fan. THE CAMARO WILL HAVE NO WHEEL HOP

Blownhotrodder · 02-13-2009, 05:10 PM

Why would that make me a mustang fan? You start making serious hp and add a sticky tire at the strip and let me know how it works out. The mustang cobra had irs for 4 or 5 yrs. and when dragging them usually snapped the halfshafts. Now you must remember these cars today are noticeably heavier so that means even more stress.

Codefive · 02-13-2009, 05:37 PM

I'm quite certain you'll find the Camaro to be more than "just a tick" faster than the Chally. That 6.1 Hemi is over rated and the LS3 is under rated. (and I'm a Dodge guy at heart) Been there, dyno-ed that! That combined with the 400 lb weight difference and I think you'll see 6-8 tenths if not a full second.
The 6.1 Chally does have an advantage in the rear dept though, stick cars get 3.91 gears. But put those in the Camaro and look out

Vash · 02-13-2009, 06:02 PM

It's a tank that's why.

I do like the SE in Red. Looks tight for a cheap car.

TheClassicCarKid · 02-13-2009, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Codefive

I'm quite certain you'll find the Camaro to be more than "just a tick" faster than the Chally. That 6.1 Hemi is over rated and the LS3 is under rated. (and I'm a Dodge guy at heart) Been there, dyno-ed that! That combined with the 400 lb weight difference and I think you'll see 6-8 tenths if not a full second.
The 6.1 Chally does have an advantage in the rear dept though, stick cars get 3.91 gears. But put those in the Camaro and look out

400?

Vash · 02-13-2009, 06:19 PM

It's a comfortable well built american car. They don't make em like they used to.

Looks 10x better than that butt ugly new Mustang.

Blownhotrodder · 02-13-2009, 07:10 PM

Yea, where did you get 400lbs from? Proof?

02-13-2009, 03:07 PM	#1
jordan 572 Drives: none Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: MN Posts: 1,720 View My Garage	challenger slow because of wheel hop? What about Camaro? my dads buddy brought over a new challenger with the 6.1 srt 8 in it. my dad drove it and said it was slow because their was a lot of wheel hop when you gave it a lot of gas and it started slipping. will this be true on the camaro

02-13-2009, 03:11 PM	#2
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,201 View My Garage	Well, if I'm not mistaken, '08s didn't have limited slips in the back. This won't happen on Camaro. The wheelhop, we've been told, has been addressed. I'm sure some of the more hardcore will get 'hop out of the car when they get a sticky tire on there but I think most of us won't have much of a problem. Aside from that, I think Camaro should only be a tick-or-two faster than the SRT8. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

02-13-2009, 03:13 PM	#4
greenrail Comic Curmudgeon Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS-2010 VW CC Sport Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near Chicago, IL Posts: 2,395	If you don't modulate your acceleration when you launch, you could suffer this problem. My thinking is that if you use the Traction COntrol , until you learn the best launch technique, you will probably avoid a lot ofthis problem. Hopefully, a lot of the wheel hop problems seen on the GTO will be managed better with the different axle construction and TCS. Heck if you get that bad a wheel hop, you are only frying half your tires! LOL __________________ Member Illinois Camaro Club His Name is Rosie - "Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick!" - If you know who said that, then you know the genesis of his name.

02-13-2009, 03:27 PM	#5
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,201 View My Garage	I don't see much more than a tenth or two. The power's about the same and Camaro weighs a little less. I think the six-speeds will be a great match, and it'll come down to which driver is better, and which chassis is better composed. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

02-13-2009, 04:53 PM	#7
detroitboy Pinholic Drives: 11 Silverado, 08 Shelby GT500 Conv. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Macomb, Mi Posts: 698	I read a post some time ago (from Fbodfather?) that the wheel hop issues had been corrected by the use of somewhat oval shaped halfshafts. I know for a fact this subject has been brought up before and it is supposedly "officially" corrected. __________________ Almost had a 2SS/RS, IOM, orange accent interior, 6 speed manual, sunroof & polished wheels ordered 01/19/07 3000 - 2/27/09 3400 - 3/27/09 3800 - 4/17/09 (built and lost in the vortex) ship date ??????? (I gave up and got a GT500) 5/11/09 - order cancelled 5/27/09 - vehicle arrived at dealership for whoever bought it after me

02-13-2009, 03:12 PM	#3
jordan 572 Drives: none Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: MN Posts: 1,720 View My Garage	how much faster should the maro be 0-60[guess]

02-13-2009, 04:26 PM	#6
Blownhotrodder Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Clarkesville , GEORGIA Posts: 1,859	Yet another reason irs blows. Usually someone comes out with a bushing kit or something else to fix the wheelhop issues with the irs equipped cars. Wheelhop is very very hard on all drivetrain components and usually leads to halfshaft failures.

02-13-2009, 04:57 PM	#8
kylepo Drives: 2002 firehawk.....missing 02CE Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Midland MI/salamanca NY Posts: 360	yet another reason IRS blows? must be a mustang fan. THE CAMARO WILL HAVE NO WHEEL HOP

02-13-2009, 05:10 PM	#9
Blownhotrodder Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Clarkesville , GEORGIA Posts: 1,859	Why would that make me a mustang fan? You start making serious hp and add a sticky tire at the strip and let me know how it works out. The mustang cobra had irs for 4 or 5 yrs. and when dragging them usually snapped the halfshafts. Now you must remember these cars today are noticeably heavier so that means even more stress.

02-13-2009, 05:37 PM	#10
Codefive Drives: 1000HP 2010 SSRS Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mt. Airy Maryland Posts: 351	I'm quite certain you'll find the Camaro to be more than "just a tick" faster than the Chally. That 6.1 Hemi is over rated and the LS3 is under rated. (and I'm a Dodge guy at heart) Been there, dyno-ed that! That combined with the 400 lb weight difference and I think you'll see 6-8 tenths if not a full second. The 6.1 Chally does have an advantage in the rear dept though, stick cars get 3.91 gears. But put those in the Camaro and look out

02-13-2009, 06:02 PM	#11
Vash Drives: 00 Blazer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,104	It's a tank that's why. I do like the SE in Red. Looks tight for a cheap car.

02-13-2009, 06:19 PM	#13
Vash Drives: 00 Blazer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,104	It's a comfortable well built american car. They don't make em like they used to. Looks 10x better than that butt ugly new Mustang.

02-13-2009, 07:10 PM	#14
Blownhotrodder Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Clarkesville , GEORGIA Posts: 1,859	Yea, where did you get 400lbs from? Proof?

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