[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by Bosse'sBoss

How does your Camaro SS1LE compares to your Corvette Grand Sport handling? Both are great Sport cars

Yea definately, love me some slow m6/m7 NA power lol. I've written out long drawn out comparisons before but the basic jist of it is that I do feel that the alpha platform on the camaro is the more stable, stiffer, and "communicative" of the two, but it's not enough to make up against the corvettes lower weight, lower center, and better weight distribution.

That camaro has the better chassis imo but the GS has a lot of design advatanges that make it the faster car but I do prefer the feel of the ss 1le a little better. There's a reason the 460 hp corvette gs can put down times comparable to a zl1 1le on certain tracks, but I think like it's been said before that it takes a little more skill with a corvette to squeeze out it's potential then an alpha platform car. Though having driven a z06 as well as my GS, I can definately say the GS is by far the best behaved and handling c7 even though it's not the fastest by a lot.

Now I would say, without changing too too much on a camaro and turning it into a corvette, imagine if an SS 1le lost 300 pounds, maybe add a rear mounted transaxle for weight distribution if you want to get crazy. That would be a heck of a car, an alpha platform car given the corvette treament. If the 7th gen gets the green light and doesn't go EV I would love to see the camaro get lighter and get a rear transaxle now that front engine corvettes are dead and Chevy doesn't need to keep that corvette exclusive.

There's obviously a lot more differences between the two of them, like the experience of the GS with the Targa top off, but just wanted to stick to handling.

[slimjim2525]

Be careful what you do. I'm in my 2019 2SS now because I modified my Infiniti Q50 Red Sport by adding an aftermarket exhaust, and increased the boost from 14.5 PSI, to 19 PSI and toasted one of the turbo's. Infiniti would not cover it because I put an aftermarket exhaust on it. 20k dollar mistake. Now that car was unreal fast, but handled like shit. Anytime you modify a car, they will void the warranty. I tried to invoke the Magnuson Moss act saying the exhaust had nothing to do with blowing the turbo, they basically said go screw. So IMO, upgrade to the ZL1, but as said before, you will never be happy with your quest for more power, just be happy with what you got. My 2ss is staying stock.

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by LT4Greg

Some folks do though Robby. I can tell you don’t from what you have replied. I agree with Mark(Fraxum) about modding the SS to get to the power levels of the ZL1s as I thought that I would go that route with my 2016 2SS but after adding up all the money to get there I decided that it wasn’t worth the cost for me at the time. I was seriously looking at getting a 1SS 1LE when I found the used ZL1 so I figured that was the better option for me. When the SS 1LES came out in 2017 I really liked them and figured I might upgrade to one over my 2SS but the ZL1 showed up and the rest is history.

Agreed, the zl1 is a hell of a car and definately a bigger jump/difference over the 2ss you had than an SS 1le would have been given the extra power. It's too bad people hate on other cars instead of appreciating them for what they are but I guess thats the nature of the beast when talking cars sometimes, just look at the VS sub forum lol.

I'm currently in the conundrum of mildly debating staying with the ss 1le vs zl1 1le. While I do prefer NA power and it's not that hard to get to lt4 power out of the lt1 with heads/cam and fbo, I also like having a warranty on cars I beat up on lol, but I also like to keep as much of my money as possible and the trade would cost me quite a bit more than mods. Sometimes I envy non car guys who just get a Toyota Corolla and call it a day!

Plus the zle looks like a badass batmobile.

[JonDaddy82]

I was at this crossroads before I purchased my car. 2SS 1LE vs. ZL1. There was about a $13-15K price delta between the two, but when adding up the changes part by part that savings disappears QUICKLY. My vehicle is financed as well, and it's easier for me to have a $200-$250 a month higher payment than to shell out the car payment PLUS $500/$1,500/$5,000 here and there for big mods. NO THANKS!

[LT4Greg]

Yes Jon that’s what I was looking at to mod my 2016 SS! At least $10,000 to $15,000 with all the upgrades/parts to get to the power level of the Z! I was planning on Vengeance Racing to mod my SS but the used ZL1 showed up and figured I would spend a lot less money to buy it!

[LT4Greg]

Yes Robby, the ZL1 1LE is something to consider as you can find used ones reasonably priced now, at least the 2018s if you want a M6 trans.

[Thrillz]

Been on this board a long time i have never seen a ZL1 owner say dam wish i got a SS. If its in your budget and fills your needs you won’t be disappointed with a ZL1 its amazing . If you go the mod route which I wouldn’t recommend in the end i bet you will be thinking i should have just bought the ZL1.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Thrillz

Been on this board a long time i have never seen a ZL1 owner say dam wish i got a SS. If its in your budget and fills your needs you won’t be disappointed with a ZL1 its amazing . If you go the mod route which I wouldn’t recommend in the end i bet you will be thinking i should have just bought the ZL1.

Maybe, but not necessarily. There are things I don't like about the ZL, for example (and it is hardly customizable), plus there is an enjoyment factor to a journey itself as opposed just being teleported to the destination.

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by LT4Greg

Yes Jon that’s what I was looking at to mod my 2016 SS! At least $10,000 to $15,000 with all the upgrades/parts to get to the power level of the Z! I was planning on Vengeance Racing to mod my SS but the used ZL1 showed up and figured I would spend a lot less money to buy it!

The mod game can definately add up, but 15k should get you way more than z power, blower + piston rods + fuel. Should be able to do heads cam for under 9k, that should put you in the 530-600 rwhp range NA.... no warranty ofcourse lol

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by LT4Greg

Yes Robby, the ZL1 1LE is something to consider as you can find used ones reasonably priced now, at least the 2018s if you want a M6 trans.

Yea a left on the lot 2018 m6 would be ideal, but I'll either go H/C on the ss or by the time I do decide to do anything 2018 zle's will be out of bumper to bumper lol

[USAFS197]

I personally couldn’t make that trade. I had a fairly modified SS 1LE and I test drove a few ZL1’s to see how I felt about them. I was generally unimpressed and felt that they were more nose heavy than I wanted them to be. The power was nice and all but it didn’t feel like there was enough of a difference to justify the cost when really, if you added a LT4 supercharger to the SS 1LE, you’d likely be hard pressed to tell the difference behind the wheel of either car.

Which is why I opted for a C7 Z06. If you’re in the market for this type of car, give it a quick spin and see how you feel about it. It was enough of a change from my 1LE to make me feel justified in the swap. Also, the weight difference between the Z06 and ZL1 was the nail in the coffin on my end.

[Bosse'sBoss]

"""Based on MT reviews, the ZL1's Alpha platform handles better the SC power compared to the Z06 Corvette.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/articl...-car-corvette/


the Camaro hasn't experienced the same overheating issues that initially plagued the Corvette Z06, thanks mostly to the ZL1's 11 heat exchangers.

[L78toLT1]

Originally Posted by davecamaro6

Currently have a 2018 1LE w/ 2SS package. At the time of purchase, I thought 455hp would be enough. Drove a ZL1 this weekend.. and now I really want that added power. But not sure if I’m better off just supercharging my current car.

Thoughts? What would you guys do?

With the 2SS 1LE, the OP has the ultimate SS. If all he wants is ZL1 power, I'd just pick up a 2300 maggie or a Whipple. No need for anything but the base kit to match the Z power wise.
I track my maggie equipped SS and i can assure you that adding the blower does not destroy the balance of the car. Obviously the extra weight doesn't help, but it's not nearly as bad as you would think. The LT1 as well as the rest of the drivetrain has proven to be just about bulletproof at 550 whp.
If money is an issue, you can probably get into a maggie or Whipple for 6k or so if you do the install, which anyone with any experience wrenching at can easily accomplish. With nothing other than the blower, it's an easy day's work to go back stock when you decide to sell. You can sell the blower and get around half of your money back as well.

[c4racer]

Originally Posted by slimjim2525

Be careful what you do. I'm in my 2019 2SS now because I modified my Infiniti Q50 Red Sport by adding an aftermarket exhaust, and increased the boost from 14.5 PSI, to 19 PSI and toasted one of the turbo's. Infiniti would not cover it because I put an aftermarket exhaust on it. 20k dollar mistake. Now that car was unreal fast, but handled like shit. Anytime you modify a car, they will void the warranty. I tried to invoke the Magnuson Moss act saying the exhaust had nothing to do with blowing the turbo, they basically said go screw. So IMO, upgrade to the ZL1, but as said before, you will never be happy with your quest for more power, just be happy with what you got. My 2ss is staying stock.

They wouldn't cover it because of the exhaust? Or because you upped the boost 30%?? I think if boost had been stock it may have been another story. It would be pretty hard to argue that a muffler has anything to do with engine component failure. If it's full headers and removing cats that's another matter.