V6 Autocross Setups ? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

rwi2112 · 10-10-2015, 09:06 AM

Do any of you guys with a Gen5 V6 have them set up especially for autocross ? I had planned on trying to do some suspension work over the winter but I'm not real sure where to start. I did waste some of my Camaro money on another bike so it's starting to look like I can't just ship it off to Raymonds and tell them to have at it

Right now all I have is my stock suspension. No strut tower or frame connectors or anything. My mods are C.A.I., Elite catch can, Magna Flow cat backs and a Hypertech Max Energy programmer.

SPCBA · 10-10-2015, 10:07 AM

Big and obtainable upgrades are take off SS brakes and suspension pieces. Of course going with 4 rear oem SS/rs wheels with 275 all around is another easy upgrade financially.

While dropping off at Raymond's might be out of reach for near future, talking to him for advice and maybe leads on used oem upgrades for ya as well.

wakespeak · 10-10-2015, 08:16 PM

2010-2011 benefit from cradle bushing inserts or replacements.

Tmick5jr · 10-10-2015, 10:07 PM

i went with brembos all around, coilovers, and 275 tires on all four corners. sway bars will help

Destructo09 · 10-12-2015, 10:39 AM

Here's the big question, what class do you want to run in? I think with everything suggested here you might be stuck in CAM or ESP.

Honestly, if your just getting started don't worry about making lots of changes to the car, it will handle better than your skills allow for the time being anyway.

The best thing you can do is get some seat time and take all the ride alongs you can.

ICTsccaCamaro · 10-12-2015, 07:50 PM

We had 1LE shocks, springs, and sways, brembo swapped and were running 20x9 all the way around with an aggressive alignment on our V6 and did really good regionally.

JusticePete · 10-12-2015, 08:24 PM

Your 14 has much improved sub-frame bushings than the early years of release. Going to an outboard mount rear sway bar is the single biggest improvement you can make followed by wheels and tires. 1LE struts would be a big plus with upgrade wheels and tires. There are small gains available with 1LE/ZL11/Z/28 toe links. Rear upper outer control arm Z/28 bushings are the best solution available.

Depending on the class and budget we can design an optimal solution for you right here.

rwi2112 · 10-13-2015, 08:03 AM

For my very first try at it I was pleased with my Friday morning results

CamaroCross
Summary Results, #1 - FRIDAY AM SESSION 2015 - Fri 08-07-2015
Timed Entries: 37
Pos. Class # Rookie Driver Car Model Total Diff. From 1st
'c1' Total Entries: 10
1 021 RAYMOND (WAYNE) IVY CHEVY CAMARO V6 45.675 [-]0.350 -
2 038 TODD BECK CHEVY CAMARO SS 46.025 +0.350 +0.350
3 024 ERIC PUNG CHEVY CAMARO SS 46.133 +0.108 +0.458
4 011 BOB TOMS CHEVY CAMARO V6 46.236 +0.103 +0.561
5 019 CRAIG NIEHOFF CHEVY CAMARO V6 46.470 +0.234 +0.795
6 016 JACOB MILLS CHEVY CAMARO V6 47.208 +0.738 +1.533
7 029 JANICE MOORE CHEVY CAMARO V6 55.970 +8.762 +10.295

I'm Wayne, so I think I can get around the cones O.K. I just didn't like how much roll the rear end of my car had. I went back and looked at my video that the wife recorded (rwi2112 on you tube) and was mostly interested in keeping the rear of the car planted.

JusticePete · 10-13-2015, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwi2112

For my very first try at it I was pleased with my Friday morning results

CamaroCross
Summary Results, #1 - FRIDAY AM SESSION 2015 - Fri 08-07-2015
Timed Entries: 37
Pos. Class # Rookie Driver Car Model Total Diff. From 1st
'c1' Total Entries: 10
1 021 RAYMOND (WAYNE) IVY CHEVY CAMARO V6 45.675 [-]0.350 -
2 038 TODD BECK CHEVY CAMARO SS 46.025 +0.350 +0.350
3 024 ERIC PUNG CHEVY CAMARO SS 46.133 +0.108 +0.458
4 011 BOB TOMS CHEVY CAMARO V6 46.236 +0.103 +0.561
5 019 CRAIG NIEHOFF CHEVY CAMARO V6 46.470 +0.234 +0.795
6 016 JACOB MILLS CHEVY CAMARO V6 47.208 +0.738 +1.533
7 029 JANICE MOORE CHEVY CAMARO V6 55.970 +8.762 +10.295

I'm Wayne, so I think I can get around the cones O.K. I just didn't like how much roll the rear end of my car had. I went back and looked at my video that the wife recorded (rwi2112 on you tube) and was mostly interested in keeping the rear of the car planted.

Well done Wayne

JPSS Sway Bars - We make the only outboard mount rear sway bar that fits V6 brakes and our 32/27mm bar split has been the standard since 2009.

JPSS Black Magic Billet Radius Bushing Inserts - control dynamic caster change. The Z/28 comes with a similar insert, but the JPSS inserts is larger and more robust

OEM 1LE/ZL1/Z/28 Toe Links

These parts with a tight spec JPSS alignment will transform your V6.

rwi2112 · 10-13-2015, 09:39 AM

Pete is that sway bar / bushings set up something I could install myself ? I'm an Industrial Maintenance Electrician so I've turned a few wrenches in my day. I had a 79 K5 Blazer that I installed a 10" lift kit on by myself and I got a nice pole barn. Would I just go to your web site to order the stuff or would I have to go through a middle man ?

Thanks, Wayne

JusticePete · 10-13-2015, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwi2112

Pete is that sway bar / bushings set up something I could install myself ? I'm an Industrial Maintenance Electrician so I've turned a few wrenches in my day. I had a 79 K5 Blazer that I installed a 10" lift kit on by myself and I got a nice pole barn. Would I just go to your web site to order the stuff or would I have to go through a middle man ?

Thanks, Wayne

Wayne,

They are in stock and we can ship today. I would post the link to my site, but the forum rules won't allow that. Go to www.JPSSonline.com and click on SHOP. Click on the image with two bars to order.

Yes you can do the install yourself. When you are ready to install them, give me a call. This is my mobile. 616-834-8100

JusticePete · 10-13-2015, 09:57 AM

We have to update our kits. 2010 - 2012 V6 need lower control arms and drop links. The 2013 - 2015 V6 needs only the drop links in addition to the bars. We'll fix that a.s.a.p.

VTSummit · 10-13-2015, 10:37 AM

I went with the Brembo brake setup from an SS on front, CTS-V rear (same thing, really) and 1/LE complete kit from GM. 275's all around. OEM strut tower bar.
Worst part is there is no place to practice to learn the feel of the car. I need a friend with a big parking lot.

JusticePete · 10-13-2015, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VTSummit

I went with the Brembo brake setup from an SS on front, CTS-V rear (same thing, really) and 1/LE complete kit from GM. 275's all around. OEM strut tower bar.
Worst part is there is no place to practice to learn the feel of the car. I need a friend with a big parking lot.

Why the strut tower bar?

10-10-2015, 10:07 AM	#2
SPCBA Drives: pleather and Chiclets Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: a line somwhere Posts: 4,206 View My Garage	Big and obtainable upgrades are take off SS brakes and suspension pieces. Of course going with 4 rear oem SS/rs wheels with 275 all around is another easy upgrade financially. While dropping off at Raymond's might be out of reach for near future, talking to him for advice and maybe leads on used oem upgrades for ya as well. __________________ the power by www.cunningham-motorsports.com the brakes by www.RacingBrake.com

10-10-2015, 08:16 PM	#3
wakespeak Drives: 2020 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,335	2010-2011 benefit from cradle bushing inserts or replacements. __________________ 2020 ZL1 1LE [Moroso SC Expansion Tank, otherwise stock]

10-12-2015, 10:39 AM	#5
Destructo09 Drives: 2010 CGM Camaro 2SS/LS3 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Raleigh-Durham Posts: 1,409	Here's the big question, what class do you want to run in? I think with everything suggested here you might be stuck in CAM or ESP. Honestly, if your just getting started don't worry about making lots of changes to the car, it will handle better than your skills allow for the time being anyway. The best thing you can do is get some seat time and take all the ride alongs you can. __________________ 2010 2SS BMR 1" Springs Koni Orange struts/shocks 1LE rear sway bar SRP Racing Pedals Hurst Billet short shifter Square tire/wheel setup Elite Engineering Catch Can Stainless Power longtubes/highflow cats K&N Typhoon CAI RPM Motorsports of Garner, NC dyno tune (421 RWHP)

10-12-2015, 07:50 PM	#6
ICTsccaCamaro ITCRNRS Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 1,575	We had 1LE shocks, springs, and sways, brembo swapped and were running 20x9 all the way around with an aggressive alignment on our V6 and did really good regionally. __________________ 2018 ZL1 1LE Ordered 6/29/17 Built 11/6/17 Delivered 12/7/17, Summit White, PDR, NAV, https://www.youtube.com/c/tylerpotter SOLD: 2014 Summit White 1LE 2SS/RS, Recaros, NPP, NAV, KONI Yellow's SOLD: 2012 Black 2LT/RS, Fully 1LE swapped, Brembo swap

10-13-2015, 10:37 AM	#13
VTSummit Consistently inconsistent Drives: 2015 2LT Summit White Join Date: May 2015 Location: United States Posts: 1,364	I went with the Brembo brake setup from an SS on front, CTS-V rear (same thing, really) and 1/LE complete kit from GM. 275's all around. OEM strut tower bar. Worst part is there is no place to practice to learn the feel of the car. I need a friend with a big parking lot. __________________ Thanks to MRR, I have some SWEET wheels! Thank you! 2015 2LT Ported TB, Ported intake, JACFAB intake spacer, Borla exhaust, IPF 91 tune, Complete 1/LE suspension, Brembo brakes, Goodridge lines, Elite catch can, CAI with Thermo-wrap, 275/40-20 x 10's all around, Z/28 spoiler, GM splitter, Alpine/Polk stereo with AudiControl interface.

10-10-2015, 09:06 AM	#1
rwi2112 Green Manalishi Drives: 2010 Synergy Green Camaro LT Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 217 View My Garage	V6 Autocross Setups ? Do any of you guys with a Gen5 V6 have them set up especially for autocross ? I had planned on trying to do some suspension work over the winter but I'm not real sure where to start. I did waste some of my Camaro money on another bike so it's starting to look like I can't just ship it off to Raymonds and tell them to have at it Right now all I have is my stock suspension. No strut tower or frame connectors or anything. My mods are C.A.I., Elite catch can, Magna Flow cat backs and a Hypertech Max Energy programmer.

10-10-2015, 10:07 PM	#4
Tmick5jr Todd Drives: 2012 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,669 View My Garage	i went with brembos all around, coilovers, and 275 tires on all four corners. sway bars will help

10-12-2015, 08:24 PM	#7
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	Your 14 has much improved sub-frame bushings than the early years of release. Going to an outboard mount rear sway bar is the single biggest improvement you can make followed by wheels and tires. 1LE struts would be a big plus with upgrade wheels and tires. There are small gains available with 1LE/ZL11/Z/28 toe links. Rear upper outer control arm Z/28 bushings are the best solution available. Depending on the class and budget we can design an optimal solution for you right here.

10-13-2015, 08:03 AM	#8
rwi2112 Green Manalishi Drives: 2010 Synergy Green Camaro LT Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 217 View My Garage	For my very first try at it I was pleased with my Friday morning results CamaroCross Summary Results, #1 - FRIDAY AM SESSION 2015 - Fri 08-07-2015 Timed Entries: 37 Pos. Class # Rookie Driver Car Model Total Diff. From 1st 'c1' Total Entries: 10 1 021 RAYMOND (WAYNE) IVY CHEVY CAMARO V6 45.675 [-]0.350 - 2 038 TODD BECK CHEVY CAMARO SS 46.025 +0.350 +0.350 3 024 ERIC PUNG CHEVY CAMARO SS 46.133 +0.108 +0.458 4 011 BOB TOMS CHEVY CAMARO V6 46.236 +0.103 +0.561 5 019 CRAIG NIEHOFF CHEVY CAMARO V6 46.470 +0.234 +0.795 6 016 JACOB MILLS CHEVY CAMARO V6 47.208 +0.738 +1.533 7 029 JANICE MOORE CHEVY CAMARO V6 55.970 +8.762 +10.295 I'm Wayne, so I think I can get around the cones O.K. I just didn't like how much roll the rear end of my car had. I went back and looked at my video that the wife recorded (rwi2112 on you tube) and was mostly interested in keeping the rear of the car planted.

10-13-2015, 09:39 AM	#10
rwi2112 Green Manalishi Drives: 2010 Synergy Green Camaro LT Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 217 View My Garage	Pete is that sway bar / bushings set up something I could install myself ? I'm an Industrial Maintenance Electrician so I've turned a few wrenches in my day. I had a 79 K5 Blazer that I installed a 10" lift kit on by myself and I got a nice pole barn. Would I just go to your web site to order the stuff or would I have to go through a middle man ? Thanks, Wayne

10-13-2015, 09:57 AM	#12
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	We have to update our kits. 2010 - 2012 V6 need lower control arms and drop links. The 2013 - 2015 V6 needs only the drop links in addition to the bars. We'll fix that a.s.a.p.