08-01-2016, 07:47 PM | #659 |
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Must be new moons half bro lol.
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08-01-2016, 07:54 PM | #661 |
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This could be said about quite a few hellcat's many many run's under the factory claimed number's. Not the car's fault
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08-01-2016, 08:44 PM | #662 |
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Agreed with the earlier statements around driver experience. My CTS-V, which only has 556hp ran 12.2@120mph on street tires. I could never put the power down off the line so the 60's were 2.0's......fugging awful. Slapped on drag radials and a CAI and it ran 11.52@122mph, with a decent 1.65 60'.
As for road course? Far too many variables as Sven stated. The magazines test are great for evening out the variables - same driver, same day, same weather, etc. The one thing on Lightning Lap times that did change was the repaving at VIR that added tarmack in critical spots. Most will tell you that this was worth a second or two. It definitely helped me in the NASCAR turn at now I have room to let the car run out wide where I didn't before. That does make comparisons a little muddy today versus 3 years ago. Still pissed that Dodge didn't let the Hellcat's run for the Lightning Laps.....probably in their best interest not to, but as an enthusiast I would've liked to have seen the times. They're probably still stinging from when the SRT8 Challenger and Charger ran 3:09/3:10......not good. |
08-01-2016, 08:47 PM | #663 |
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What if you take a professional driver with all stock cars. The driver runs all cars on the same 1/4 track within a reasonable amount of time. Would you accept those times as reasonable?
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08-02-2016, 10:33 AM | #664 | ||
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I've always suspected the shop put big numbers on the dyno sheet so they felt the money was worth it, then turned the tune down to something off the edge for every day driving but didn't tell them. It sometimes happens in the Mopar world as well, but less so as there's honestly not that many guys that can effectively tune a Mopar, but seems to be tons that tune Chevy. Now that I have a Camaro, I'll extend an invite to a few of you guys here to come join the fun at ChallengerFest next year. Run your car for grins if you want and have some fun with us. That would certainly be a start. Even same track, same day, same conditions takes a lot of variables out of the equation. Taking the actual E.T. out of the picture, which also eliminates a lot of required driver skill, the trap speeds tell the tale on power. The Hellcat traps 123-125MPH. That takes some serious power to achieve that in 1/4 mile. |
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08-02-2016, 07:48 PM | #665 |
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When I see a car run a number in person it's more believeable. I've been drag racing for a long long time. Many on most websites are clueless as to how quick cars truly are or are not. I'm no professional driver by any stretch but I can pilot a car down the dragstrip. Seems simple enough doesn't it? That said I see far too many newer cars crash into the guardrails because the driver thinks he (or she) can simply mash the gas and lay down a number. When a car has enough power you have to actually "drive it" and pay attention. A couple weeks back I saw a young man in his BMW leave the starting boiling the rear tires past the 330' mark without a clue only to find himself doing a 360* spin and slapping the opposite guardrail HARD broadside. It happens more frequently than you might think but it's usually the newer Mustangs that make contact with the wall. I hate seeing that stuff.
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08-02-2016, 07:51 PM | #666 |
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Too bad Fiat couldn't come up with a moniker that didn't belong to GM.
At least they kept the Tank concept though. MIC DROPPED!!!
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08-02-2016, 07:53 PM | #667 |
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They have been holding their place on JD Powers reliability list. Bottom feeder.
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08-02-2016, 07:54 PM | #668 | |
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or fiat
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08-02-2016, 07:55 PM | #669 |
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Are you Dodge?
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08-02-2016, 08:01 PM | #670 |
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A comma would have made it clear, but the full stop made me think otherwise.
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08-02-2016, 08:05 PM | #671 |
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I started with they in reference to your fiat comment. Bottom feeder is their place on the list. I did start a company selling portable safe places and will sell to fat kitty owners for when the new ZL1S times are released.
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