ZL1 vs Hellcat - Page 46

Bhobbs · 07-31-2016, 11:42 AM

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Yup. I'm waiting until Ford announces the '18 model Mustangs -- it's widely anticipated they're doing a refresh that should bring updated interiors and *hopefully* a new GT500.

If no GT500 is offered or if the GT500 looks to be underwhelming I'll happily put my order in for a ZL1 but I'm definitely going to wait to see what they offer.

It should be interesting to see what Ford comes out with in 2018. It's pretty much confirmed the Coyote will be getting direct injection and the spray bore liner. It could end up being a 5.2 liter cross plane crank V8 making high 400s hp and low to mid 400s tq.

Sven59 · 07-31-2016, 01:47 PM

Exactly why we buy performance cars, for backseat passenger comfort and grocery trips. LMAO.

doc7000 · 07-31-2016, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

If the ZL1 weighs under 4000 lbs, it will have a similar or better power to weight ratio. Combined with larger tires and I expect the ZL1 to run with the Hellcat twins.

The previous ZL1 coupe had a base curb weight of 4,120 pounds and it was stated that the new car is 200 pounds lighter putting it at 3,920 pounds. That puts power to weight at 6 pounds per horsepower, the old ZL1 was at 7.1 pounds per horsepower so it is a pretty solid jump. I believe that the last GT500 had a base curb weight of 3,850 pounds however with things like their track pack could go up to 3,960 pounds though at 3,850 pounds it puts the car at 5.8 pounds per horsepower. According to the Dodge site the Hellcat is 4,469 pounds with 707BHP giving it a power to weight ratio of 6.3 pounds per horsepower (the worse of the 3).

Though Ford will likely have an answer to the ZL1 with a new GT500 I don't think Dodge has any plans in the near term.

396ssrat · 07-31-2016, 06:07 PM

The current ZL1 is a turd on a drag strip.

Sven59 · 07-31-2016, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 396ssrat

The current ZL1 is a turd on a drag strip.

Lmao.

*007 · 07-31-2016, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 396ssrat

The current ZL1 is a turd on a drag strip.

Maybe you should let someone else drive it then...???

Heavymetal454 · 07-31-2016, 07:52 PM

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Maybe you should let someone else drive it then...???

I must say that the 2017 ZL1 in the quarter is a beast! I would tell you how fast it ran but I have been sworn to secrecy. This message was supposed to be encrypted but I didn't say anything confidential so I opted not to do that.

Carry on!

NB2017ZL1 · 07-31-2016, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Heavymetal454

I must say that the 2017 ZL1 in the quarter is a beast! I would tell you how fast it ran but I have been sworn to secrecy. This message was supposed to be encrypted but I didn't say anything confidential so I opted not to do that.

Carry on!

Al O says the stats will shock people. Can't wait to see them!

Jeffro19 · 07-31-2016, 08:18 PM

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Al O says the stats will shock people. Can't wait to see them!

Me too! Come on Aug 18th! Earlier would be ok too...

Heavymetal454 · 07-31-2016, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffro19

Me too! Come on Aug 18th! Earlier would be ok too...

I was asked not to tell. Pinky swear!

96MrBass · 07-31-2016, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 396ssrat

The current ZL1 is a turd on a drag strip.

Wow! a 4200 lb car with usually a little under 500 hp to the wheels with a good driver and DA capable of going mid 11's is a turd?

detltu · 07-31-2016, 10:36 PM

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Wow! a 4200 lb car with usually a little under 500 hp to the wheels with a good driver and DA capable of going mid 11's is a turd?

The hellcat is the only car that's not a turd to him. He doesn't need a steering wheel.

Speedy1975 · 08-01-2016, 11:30 AM

I dunno, the ZL1s that have shown up to our local drag strip have been pretty underwhelming. The owners were even pissed LOL

Maybe no one but a pro can drive them?

Sven59 · 08-01-2016, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy1975

I dunno, the ZL1s that have shown up to our local drag strip have been pretty underwhelming. The owners were even pissed LOL

Maybe no one but a pro can drive them?

Driver skill is variable that is not a fault of the car.

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Speedy1975 FASTER! Drives: Challenger Hellcat, 2SS Camaro Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 2,245	I dunno, the ZL1s that have shown up to our local drag strip have been pretty underwhelming. The owners were even pissed LOL Maybe no one but a pro can drive them? __________________ -Speedy 2016 Go Mango Challenger Hellcat (PB E.T. in 1/4 Mile 9.83 @ 140MPH)

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