07-27-2021, 05:20 PM | #85 |
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i will never forget the time my family was driving to florida in moms 66 ford country squire wagon(yeah,the size of a cruise ship with fake wood sides.)they had just switched drivers and dad was ragging her because she normally drove the speed limit and he wanted to get there faster.she burned rubber coming unto I-95 and had it up to 92 in a 70 before getting pulled about a half mile down the road.she wished someone had warned her...it was pretty fast for a big ol waggoon.
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07-27-2021, 05:27 PM | #86 |
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I'm already resigned to the fact that there won't be a gen7 ICE Camaro. I'm mostly OK with an electric Camaro too. But I'm not OK with a sedan Camaro. Why not keep the Camaro as a 2-door sports car EV and make the EV sedans Cadillac or new Impala, etc? Maybe because there is no performance penalty with a 4-door car versus a 2-door so why not have the larger market.
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07-27-2021, 05:36 PM | #87 | |
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I think this will totally flop. Lets make a guess what quarterly sales will be for this! If you think the 6th gen is already bad. And the Mustang Mach-E give it a couple years. I suspect when the newness wears off on it the sales will drop like a rock. The regular style Mustang will continue to sell well though. IMO the 4 door Mach E will go away eventually because people will favor the normal Mustang. |
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07-27-2021, 06:16 PM | #89 |
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An electric Camaro at a drag strip, a circle track or a road coursewould be like watching a good movie on mute. Be kind like watching a Golf game. Lmao
They already have an electric Caddy sedan so don't waste your money Mary.
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There is currently no Cadillac EV. They are advertising the Lyriq as if it does exist but you can only pre order. GM only has the Boot and Bolt SUV.
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07-27-2021, 06:33 PM | #91 | |
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07-27-2021, 07:01 PM | #93 | |
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All three Challenger, Mustang, and Camaro took a hit because of Covid but of course Camaro the worst. I suspect the high gas prices will be a factor too. Some say gas prices shouldn't factor in our cars. I agree for US on THIS forum because we're hardcore Camaro owners and love the car. Your typical consumer though, not enthusiast does factor in gas cost in their purchase. |
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07-27-2021, 07:08 PM | #94 | |
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Well in many states they're going to have issues. Down here in my part of Florida there will be BIG problems. Within 30 miles there are only FIVE charging stations I can count. Heck my side of the bridge there are NONE until you get all the way to Ft. Myers. It will take tons of money and such to get more built to meet that demand. Not many people drive electric around this region anyway. They will need hundreds more built from Tampa to Naples as I75 is a major road. My town wants to raise taxes on businesses or something like that the city council wants to so they can build a few charging pumps or whatever you want to call them free of charge. met by heavy resistance by businesses. Not to be political but our best hope for ICE to stay alive is to have a change in the political landscape next fall, and in the presidential elections in 2024. |
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07-27-2021, 08:05 PM | #95 | |
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This is the part where US-centric thought needs to be sidelined. North America is the 3rd largest auto market in the world. Not first, third. China is first (shocker). Europe is second. The days of designing vastly different vehicles for different parts of the world are pretty much over. Automakers have to design vehicles that comply to regulations in China and Europe. So guess what the 3rd largest market is going to get? The same basic platforms as the two largest markets. And more and more those platforms are going to be BEV, because that’s where the investment dollars are already flowing. GM has already started to spend some of the $32B they pledge to spend on electrification over the next several years. Ford is saying $30B. Stellantis (Dodge) hasn’t committed to a number yet, but they have more than hinted at the idea of an electric muscle car and Tim Kuniskis (head of performance development) has stated more than once “electrification is the new performance”. With the amount of spending and development that has already been targeted towards building battery plants and development of skateboard platforms, turning that off because someone different is in the White House just is not gonna happen. White House residents do not have any lasting impact on the global automotive market. Not like in the ‘70s or ‘80s.
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So, guess what I replaced it with, a 2021 Miata GT ND2 6 speed. There is something special about these little Miatas. They are light, 2,332lbs, quick enough, 0-60mph in 5.8 sec, drop top, slick 6 speed with short gear ratios, etc. You can rip through a couple gears to 7500 rpm redline on the street and not risk jail time. The car is cheap to operate, maintain and mod. Great aftermarket, great forums where everyone seems happy. It is just a fun car if you can physically fit in one and have another car for your daily duty. Kind of like an alternative to a motorcycle.
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07-27-2021, 08:40 PM | #98 | |
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Anyone curious enough should go the Buick China website. Yep, a minivan among a couple of sedans no longer sold in the US and at least one EV.
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