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BaylorCamaro · 11-27-2013, 02:08 PM

So since the holiday season is just around the corner, I'm thinking my next mod MAY be cooling (already have intake, headers, tune, TB). Before I up the power with a pulley I'd like to address possible cooling issues. I already have the D3 tank, and I've heard that a larger HEX is only good if you do something about the intercooler core itself (only as good as the weakest link). My question is, what are proven cooling methods? I'm also considering meth as well.

For me personally my end goal is probably around 600 rwhp.

ModBargains.com · 11-27-2013, 02:14 PM

Water/Meth for sure. I think that's your next step for sure so that you can see an improvement in power but in IAT's.

alssiri · 11-28-2013, 01:58 AM

Super Chiller

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=304460

Ahmad

joes407 · 11-28-2013, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by alssiri

Super Chiller

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=304460

Ahmad

agreed! nothing keeps your intercooler cool like a chiller

sycraft · 11-28-2013, 06:51 AM

This one is the best if you go that route,
http://activeinterchiller.com/5373.html

BaylorCamaro · 11-28-2013, 09:35 PM

I had the RX chiller on my other Camaro and it was the biggest POS I have ever seen, I had leaks and other issues.. I know it was a (poor) copy of other chiller systems and Tracy @ RX is a joke. BUT still that has basically ruined the chiller or any similar system for me.

Drew P · 11-29-2013, 08:39 AM

Meth is a proven method. BUT (and I am ready for everyone to disagree) if you run meth through a single nozzle pre-blower, you run the risk of uneven atomization between the cylinders. If you are running more timing, and a cylinder isnt getting meth, you have a problem. If i was going the meth route, i would get a direct port setup just like they do for nitrous.

mmarx82 · 11-29-2013, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

So since the holiday season is just around the corner, I'm thinking my next mod MAY be cooling (already have intake, headers, tune, TB). Before I up the power with a pulley I'd like to address possible cooling issues. I already have the D3 tank, and I've heard that a larger HEX is only good if you do something about the intercooler core itself (only as good as the weakest link). My question is, what are proven cooling methods? I'm also considering meth as well.

For me personally my end goal is probably around 600 rwhp.

While having an improved intercooler core would be a be one of the most beneficial things, I can say that my D3PE HX has definitely lowered my IAT's, alot depends on your mixture of fluid in the system too. I'm probably 1/4 Antifreeze, 2 bottles of Super Coolant and then the rest distilled water.

white ZL1 · 11-29-2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mmarx82

While having an improved intercooler core would be a be one of the most beneficial things, I can say that my D3PE HX has definitely lowered my IAT's, alot depends on your mixture of fluid in the system too. I'm probably 1/4 Antifreeze, 2 bottles of Super Coolant and then the rest distilled water.

Got any data for what your IAT's were at the start and finish of a run before and after the install of the h/e?

joes407 · 11-29-2013, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

I had the RX chiller on my other Camaro and it was the biggest POS I have ever seen, I had leaks and other issues.. I know it was a (poor) copy of other chiller systems and Tracy @ RX is a joke. BUT still that has basically ruined the chiller or any similar system for me.

knock on wood ive had no issues with "tracey's version". I have compared iats with some other zl-1's at our track and there is nothing that can keep you as cool as a chiller. my iats after back to back runs never exceed 65 degrees. even my tuner was impressed how low my iats stay. air cannot cool like Freon ever! nor will melting bags of ice!

Drew P · 11-30-2013, 11:05 PM

@white 2SS - I also run the D3PE HX - IAT2s with my mods were pushing 200* after a pull on the dyno during the summer (figure starting temps around 100*). After the swap, temps climbed to about 130*. The intercooler within the supercharger is indeed the limiting factor. Its not very big.

BaylorCamaro · 12-01-2013, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Drew P

@white 2SS - I also run the D3PE HX - IAT2s with my mods were pushing 200* after a pull on the dyno during the summer (figure starting temps around 100*). After the swap, temps climbed to about 130*. The intercooler within the supercharger is indeed the limiting factor. Its not very big.

Exactly. However I have yet to see a good aftermarket intercooler swap.

joes407 · 12-01-2013, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Drew P

@white 2SS - I also run the D3PE HX - IAT2s with my mods were pushing 200* after a pull on the dyno during the summer (figure starting temps around 100*). After the swap, temps climbed to about 130*. The intercooler within the supercharger is indeed the limiting factor. Its not very big.

so the ability to have that intercooler brick super chilled by Freon via chiller system is hands down the best as your air charge going over it will be way cooler than any air to water heat exchanger can ever do

jessrayo · 12-01-2013, 01:59 PM

I seem to have very good cooling right now. Haven't had any really high temps to test it though. I have about 3.5 gallons in the trunk and route water from supercharger directly to Ron Davis intercooler in grill then back to reservoir in trunk.

11-27-2013, 02:08 PM	#1
BaylorCamaro Track > 1/4 Mile Drives: 2016 C7 Z51 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: League City, TX Posts: 6,072 View My Garage	Proven Cooling Methods So since the holiday season is just around the corner, I'm thinking my next mod MAY be cooling (already have intake, headers, tune, TB). Before I up the power with a pulley I'd like to address possible cooling issues. I already have the D3 tank, and I've heard that a larger HEX is only good if you do something about the intercooler core itself (only as good as the weakest link). My question is, what are proven cooling methods? I'm also considering meth as well. For me personally my end goal is probably around 600 rwhp. __________________ Automotive YouTube Channel / Texas World Speedway / MSR Houston

11-28-2013, 01:58 AM	#3
alssiri Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,250	Super Chiller http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=304460 Ahmad __________________ 2017 ZL1 A10 SW (SOLD) Whipple 2.9 with 3.2 Pulley, Weapon-X Stage 3 Cam, FIICHILLER ,LG Motorsports LT, Borla S type, ROTFAB Big Gulp, Big 3 Reservoir Glassskinz rear window valance . 2012 ZL1 A6 (SOLD) Forged 376 CI, LSA HeartBeat, Mast Medium Bore Heads & JDP ZLR Cam, ARH LT , MagnaFlow Resonated X + Borla Atak Catback, ADM 102mm Snout, CAI, NW102MM TB, ID850, Fore Triple Fuel Pump, MSD Wire's, Moroso CC. Alky Control, FIICHILLER.

11-28-2013, 06:51 AM	#5
sycraft COTW 5/06/2013 Drives: 2017 Corvette Grand Sport-Ho-Vette Join Date: May 2012 Location: Milford, Michigan Posts: 3,201 View My Garage	This one is the best if you go that route, http://activeinterchiller.com/5373.html __________________ 2017 Grand Sport, Borla X Pipe.....Enough Said

11-28-2013, 09:35 PM	#6
BaylorCamaro Track > 1/4 Mile Drives: 2016 C7 Z51 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: League City, TX Posts: 6,072 View My Garage	I had the RX chiller on my other Camaro and it was the biggest POS I have ever seen, I had leaks and other issues.. I know it was a (poor) copy of other chiller systems and Tracy @ RX is a joke. BUT still that has basically ruined the chiller or any similar system for me. __________________ Automotive YouTube Channel / Texas World Speedway / MSR Houston

11-29-2013, 08:39 AM	#7
Drew P Drives: Camaro ZL1 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 233	Meth is a proven method. BUT (and I am ready for everyone to disagree) if you run meth through a single nozzle pre-blower, you run the risk of uneven atomization between the cylinders. If you are running more timing, and a cylinder isnt getting meth, you have a problem. If i was going the meth route, i would get a direct port setup just like they do for nitrous. __________________ 2012 A6 Coupe 630RWHP 10.93@125 Mods: ID850 Injectors; D3PE HX, Reservoir & Atmospheric Catch-Can; LPE 2.55 Upper & 9.1 Lower Pulleys w/ ATI Damper; LPE Idler Pulley Relocation Bracket; "Green" Serp. Belt; Cat delete;ADM Exhaust Override; Magnaflow X-Pipe Muffler (in addition to stock mufflers); Cold Air Inductions CAI; 160 thermostat; LS9 Isolator; Port/polish snout and intake runners; LPE GT9 camshaft with dual springs and titanium retainers; Kenne Bell BAP, Install and Engine Tune by Serious Hp; Fab work by D3 Performance Engineering; Trans Tune by Keith; Coming Soon: Flex Fuel Conversion.

11-27-2013, 02:14 PM	#2
ModBargains.com Drives: Widebody 2013 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: 1721 E. Lambert Rd. Unit C, La Habra, Ca 90631 Posts: 2,848	Water/Meth for sure. I think that's your next step for sure so that you can see an improvement in power but in IAT's.

11-30-2013, 11:05 PM	#11
Drew P Drives: Camaro ZL1 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 233	@white 2SS - I also run the D3PE HX - IAT2s with my mods were pushing 200* after a pull on the dyno during the summer (figure starting temps around 100). After the swap, temps climbed to about 130. The intercooler within the supercharger is indeed the limiting factor. Its not very big. __________________ 2012 A6 Coupe 630RWHP 10.93@125 Mods: ID850 Injectors; D3PE HX, Reservoir & Atmospheric Catch-Can; LPE 2.55 Upper & 9.1 Lower Pulleys w/ ATI Damper; LPE Idler Pulley Relocation Bracket; "Green" Serp. Belt; Cat delete;ADM Exhaust Override; Magnaflow X-Pipe Muffler (in addition to stock mufflers); Cold Air Inductions CAI; 160 thermostat; LS9 Isolator; Port/polish snout and intake runners; LPE GT9 camshaft with dual springs and titanium retainers; Kenne Bell BAP, Install and Engine Tune by Serious Hp; Fab work by D3 Performance Engineering; Trans Tune by Keith; Coming Soon: Flex Fuel Conversion.

12-01-2013, 01:59 PM	#14
jessrayo Speed Freak Drives: 2013 ZL1 Camaro, 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 2,637 View My Garage	I seem to have very good cooling right now. Haven't had any really high temps to test it though. I have about 3.5 gallons in the trunk and route water from supercharger directly to Ron Davis intercooler in grill then back to reservoir in trunk. __________________ 2016 SS -AGP twin Borg Warner 7163 EFR's, LT4 mechanical pump, LT4 injectors, Walbro 255 low side, Castrol SRF. 734whp/759 tq 2013 ZL1 -ADM - 427 LSX 6 bolt, O-ringed block built by LME. Twin PT6466 turbos. RPM custom manual trans, RPS Quad carbon clutch, 9" Hendrix rear diff & axles. ADM/squash fuel system, Ron Davis radiator, Spal fans, AGP air to air, turbo plumbing. LPE oil cooler, rear bushing upgrade, roll bar...etc. rwhp 1400+... 212.5mph, best Texas mile to date.